Where Did 'God' Come From?

Discuss philosophical questions regarding theism (and atheism), and discuss religion as it relates to philosophy. This includes any philosophical discussions that happen to be about god, gods, or a 'higher power' or the belief of them. This also generally includes philosophical topics about organized or ritualistic mysticism or about organized, common or ritualistic beliefs in the existence of supernatural phenomenon.
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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by Sculptor1 » May 11th, 2020, 8:10 am

evolution wrote:
May 10th, 2020, 10:25 pm
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 10th, 2020, 7:12 am

No. I asked you what picture.
The picture where you said, "If I say it is my dog, then it is my dog."
That is a statement about a dog picture. I asked what picture.
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 10th, 2020, 7:12 am
Is it in your imagination, or are you confusing dreams with reality?
Lol, I only get those two to choose from.
Poor you. I know you have so many realms of confusion. Have you ever thought of getting help?
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 10th, 2020, 7:12 am
Sadly you've not taken that on board.

This is because not everything you say you know is true is actually true.
At least you got THAT right.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by detail » May 11th, 2020, 9:17 am

Well if god is a person it's perhaps the person you least expected to be it. Like the jewish community of Uganda for example .

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/a-tale-o ... ity-601770

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by detail » May 11th, 2020, 10:42 am

Perhaps god is coming from the winner of a uno and european community accepted winner of a human rights prize , like this one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Gaddaf ... man_Rights

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by NukeBan » May 11th, 2020, 7:50 pm

Sculptor1 wrote:
May 11th, 2020, 8:10 am
Poor you. I know you have so many realms of confusion. Have you ever thought of getting help?

It seems on every forum there's always somebody who's only real interest in participating is to call other people stupid from behind the safety of their anonymous screen name.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by evolution » May 12th, 2020, 6:26 am

Sculptor1 wrote:
May 11th, 2020, 8:10 am
evolution wrote:
May 10th, 2020, 10:25 pm


The picture where you said, "If I say it is my dog, then it is my dog."
That is a statement about a dog picture. I asked what picture.

And I answered with what I said.
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 11th, 2020, 8:10 am
Lol, I only get those two to choose from.
Poor you. I know you have so many realms of confusion. Have you ever thought of getting help?
That is one way to "argue" for one's own point of view in a philosophy forum. So, if you find that helps you, then feel free to keep doing it.
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May 11th, 2020, 8:10 am




This is because not everything you say you know is true is actually true.
At least you got THAT right.
I KNOW. Thanks for being Honest and admitting IT.

Now, the word 'God' OBVIOUSLY came after human beings. But what the word 'God' refers to OBVIOUSLY came before human beings.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by Sculptor1 » May 12th, 2020, 7:04 am

evolution wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 6:26 am
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 11th, 2020, 8:10 am

That is a statement about a dog picture. I asked what picture.

And I answered with what I said.
DUH!
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 11th, 2020, 8:10 am

Poor you. I know you have so many realms of confusion. Have you ever thought of getting help?
That is one way to "argue" for one's own point of view in a philosophy forum. So, if you find that helps you, then feel free to keep doing it.
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 11th, 2020, 8:10 am

At least you got THAT right.
I KNOW. Thanks for being Honest and admitting IT.

Now, the word 'God' OBVIOUSLY came after human beings. But what the word 'God' refers to OBVIOUSLY came before human beings.
What do you mean "God"?

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by evolution » May 12th, 2020, 7:15 am

Sculptor1 wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 7:04 am
evolution wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 6:26 am



And I answered with what I said.
DUH!


That is one way to "argue" for one's own point of view in a philosophy forum. So, if you find that helps you, then feel free to keep doing it.



I KNOW. Thanks for being Honest and admitting IT.

Now, the word 'God' OBVIOUSLY came after human beings. But what the word 'God' refers to OBVIOUSLY came before human beings.
What do you mean "God"?
I will repeat it again, for you.

God, in the visible sense, is the Universe, Itself.

God, in the non visible sense, is the Mind, Itself.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by detail » May 12th, 2020, 8:44 am

Religious booklets not always talk about god if they are talking of gifted people like jesus. For example in Luke 11:14-26 ist standing about jesus:


14 Now he was casting out a demon that was mute. When the demon had gone out, the mute man spoke, and the people marveled. 15 But some of them said, “He casts out demons by Beelzebul, the prince of demons,” 16 while others, to test him, kept seeking from him a sign from heaven. 17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and a divided household falls. 18 And if Satan also is divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? For you say that I cast out demons by Beelzebul. 19 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. 20 But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe; 22 but when one stronger than he attacks him and overcomes him, he takes away his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoil. 23 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

So the problem is how do you define then god , without the prince of demons.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by Sculptor1 » May 12th, 2020, 9:01 am

evolution wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 7:15 am
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 7:04 am

DUH!

What do you mean "God"?
I will repeat it again, for you.

God, in the visible sense, is the Universe, Itself.

God, in the non visible sense, is the Mind, Itself.
Why not call it "universe", like everyone else?
There is no "mind itself".

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by evolution » May 12th, 2020, 6:53 pm

Sculptor1 wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 9:01 am
evolution wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 7:15 am


I will repeat it again, for you.

God, in the visible sense, is the Universe, Itself.

God, in the non visible sense, is the Mind, Itself.
Why not call it "universe", like everyone else?
There is no "mind itself".
Are you sure "everyone else" calls God "universe"?

And are you sure there is no "mind itself"

Also, if God is called "universe", then why do you insist God came after human beings? This is obviously not true.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by evolution » May 12th, 2020, 7:36 pm

detail wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 8:44 am
Religious booklets not always talk about god if they are talking of gifted people like jesus. For example in Luke 11:14-26 ist standing about jesus:


14 Now he was casting out a demon that was mute. When the demon had gone out, the mute man spoke, and the people marveled. 15 But some of them said, “He casts out demons by Beelzebul, the prince of demons,” 16 while others, to test him, kept seeking from him a sign from heaven. 17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and a divided household falls. 18 And if Satan also is divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? For you say that I cast out demons by Beelzebul. 19 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. 20 But if it is by the finger of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe; 22 but when one stronger than he attacks him and overcomes him, he takes away his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoil. 23 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

So the problem is how do you define then god , without the prince of demons.
But there is no so called "problem" here.

God defined without the so called "prince of demons" is easily done.

'God' being thee Mind, of which there is only one. And, 'demons' refers to those wrong thoughts and thinking within every adult human being.

Once the wrong thinking has been cast out and gotten rid of, then what is actually true, right, and correct, which is discovered or revealed through thee OPEN Mind, then we are united together as One, with God.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by Sculptor1 » May 13th, 2020, 3:46 am

evolution wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 6:53 pm
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 9:01 am


Why not call it "universe", like everyone else?
There is no "mind itself".
Are you sure "everyone else" calls God "universe"?
You said god is universe. Everyone calls the universe, universe. LOL

And are you sure there is no "mind itself"
Its inherently nonsensical. Prove otherwise.

Also, if God is called "universe", then why do you insist God came after human beings? This is obviously not true.
Universe is universe.
End of.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by evolution » May 13th, 2020, 4:56 am

Sculptor1 wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 3:46 am
evolution wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 6:53 pm


Are you sure "everyone else" calls God "universe"?
You said god is universe.
I said God, in the visible sense, is the Universe, Itself.
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 3:46 am
Everyone calls the universe, universe. LOL

And are you sure there is no "mind itself"
Its inherently nonsensical. Prove otherwise.
Prove what? That there is a Mind?

To do that, for you, would be inherently impossible, OBVIOUSLY. Proving that would be like proving God, to you. An actual impossibility correct?
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 3:46 am

Also, if God is called "universe", then why do you insist God came after human beings? This is obviously not true.
Universe is universe.
End of.
So what is God then?

What does the word 'God' refer to exactly?

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by Sculptor1 » May 13th, 2020, 5:37 am

evolution wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 4:56 am
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 3:46 am

You said god is universe.
I said God, in the visible sense, is the Universe, Itself.
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 3:46 am
Everyone calls the universe, universe. LOL

Its inherently nonsensical. Prove otherwise.
Prove what? That there is a Mind?

To do that, for you, would be inherently impossible, OBVIOUSLY. Proving that would be like proving God, to you. An actual impossibility correct?
Sculptor1 wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 3:46 am

Universe is universe.
End of.
So what is God then?

What does the word 'God' refer to exactly?
I've told you already.
What does Gandalf refer to ?
God is effectively the same thing.

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Re: Where Did 'God' Come From?

Post by evolution » May 13th, 2020, 5:50 am

Sculptor1 wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 5:37 am
evolution wrote:
May 13th, 2020, 4:56 am


I said God, in the visible sense, is the Universe, Itself.



Prove what? That there is a Mind?

To do that, for you, would be inherently impossible, OBVIOUSLY. Proving that would be like proving God, to you. An actual impossibility correct?



So what is God then?

What does the word 'God' refer to exactly?
I've told you already.
What does Gandalf refer to ?
God is effectively the same thing.
But what a word refers to, to me, has no bearing whatsoever on what that word refers to, to you.

So, once again, what you decide the word 'God' refers to will then affect your response to questions like; Where did 'God' come from?

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