Are you disappointed or annoyed that so many people who, at first glance, aren't obviously theists have chimed in? Do you think that was inevitable?Mark_Lee wrote:(Theists only)
What do you think is the nature of God? (Theists only)
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Re: What do you think is the nature of God? (Theists only)
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By your own admission you start by making claims, but when pressed answer nothing, then hide behind the smokescreen of using personal definitions of common terms to suit your original general statements.evolution wrote: ↑May 8th, 2020, 3:39 amInform me of how you define the words 'omniscience' and 'predetermination' and I will see if I can explain how they are separate.
To me they are already separate, but I must be using different definitions than you are.
Most people are very confused with what I say.
I will await for your definition first, before I answer this question.
But I 'see' It every day in action.
Okay.
By the way, I let you define absolutely any word in absolutely any way you like, at absolutely anytime you like.
I give you the freedom and the free will to make this choice. But remember your choices are limited by predetermined factors.
I don't personally find trying to nail Jell-O to the wall of interest. Have a nice day.
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Re: What do you think is the nature of God? (Theists only)
And what exactly do you propose those claims were exactly?LuckyR wrote: ↑May 8th, 2020, 9:56 amBy your own admission you start by making claims,evolution wrote: ↑May 8th, 2020, 3:39 am
Inform me of how you define the words 'omniscience' and 'predetermination' and I will see if I can explain how they are separate.
To me they are already separate, but I must be using different definitions than you are.
Most people are very confused with what I say.
I will await for your definition first, before I answer this question.
But I 'see' It every day in action.
Okay.
By the way, I let you define absolutely any word in absolutely any way you like, at absolutely anytime you like.
I give you the freedom and the free will to make this choice. But remember your choices are limited by predetermined factors.
Did you forget that it was YOU who provided absolutely NOTHING when asked [pressed] to define the two words that you wanted me to show you how could be separated.
I also NEVER, contrary to your claim, "hid behind some smokescreen of using personal definitions of common terms to suit my original general statements" at all.
You are more than a 'little confused'. You appear absolutely completely confused here now.
Once again, ANOTHER ONE who is not capable of defining the words they use. This is because they actually do not know what they are talking about or cannot substantiate their claims.
Now you asked;
"If you can find a way of separating omniscience from predetermination, I am all ears."
This is easy, 'omniscience' refers to all-knowledge, and, 'predetermination' refers to established or decided in advance. So, finding a way of separating these obviously two very distinctly different terms, used for two obviously very separate different things, can be done by just opening a dictionary.
You then said that you were "a little confused", which is fair enough.
Then you asked;
"Do you consider omniscience to be True?
To me, 'omniscience' is neither true nor false. 'Omniscience' just refers to all-knowledge, which obviously exists.
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