LuckyR wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2020, 5:54 pmGood point. To my mind Free Will is not a thing. It is a label to describe the true difference in predictability between the behavior of billiard balls when struck on a slate table and that of human decision making. What lies behind this difference could be this or that and bears discussion but there is a difference. Those in the Free Will camp believe that this difference will never be fully understood and thus will always be a black box that can be called Free Will. Determinists believe this difference is nothing special, it is just numerous small details of an ordinary sort. They may become known or perhaps not, but they are just examples of currently understood factors that happen to be currently unknown. No need for a separate label, just ordinary factors.
Sounds like two ways of describing the same thing.
Well said. No black box for ghosts please.