Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 5:27 am
Atla wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 5:00 am
God works in mysterious ways, we can't fully decipher his intentions.. something like this?
Hi,
No,
That's amplifying the abstract.
We need to start with the physical, the child in this case, and place the focus primarily on him and build sound religious and spiritual arguments around that.
The child is suffering,
What is the child, supposedly, "suffering" from, exactly?
When this is explained, specifically, then, and only then, we can move forward, and in the right direction, on this.
Sound, and valid, logical arguments will then just 'fall into place'.
Until the 'suffering', which this child is allegedly having, is provided in specific detail, then what is there to actually base, and build, any, religious or spiritual, arguments up on, exactly?
Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 4:51 am
Thinking about it the child is aimless with a reduced or no future and no purpose ... that needs to be set right.
What future or purpose has ANY child really got?
Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 4:51 am
As a side note it's also a matter of failed generational continuity.
What does 'failed generational continuity' actually mean, to you?
Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 4:51 am
This is why I told the grand mother: what if every human being is in conversation with God before they are born.
Do you mean for the about nine months before birth, or before this conception, as well?
Also, you did NOT actually tell the grand mother anything here. What you did do, however, is ask her a question. Saying, "What if ..." is a question.
If you believe, however, that you KNOW what the answer is, then what is the answer to your question here?
Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 4:51 am
They make choices while communicating with God, but they don't understand the questions asked, much like ink blot tests psychologists give.
But ink blot tests are NOT questions asked. Ink blot "tests" are just perceptions, only.
Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 4:51 am
God so allows a person to choose their own destiny, based on their heart/character before birth.
A human being's heart just pumps blood, and, if, as you proposed earlier, that
being on earth seems to be the staging ground and place to gain all our experience and 'develop our character', for instance integrity being one character, which if it cannot be bestowed on a person, then that 'character building' is here on earth, and is one of the reasons why we are here, then we can not choose, based on our 'character' prior to being here, on earth.
Human beings either have a 'character' before birth, or, a 'character is developed' along the way while being alive, in this Universe. Or, it might be a combination of both. But, if both is being proposed, then just how this works needs to be explained.
Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 4:51 am
The grand mother's question originally was why does he have to suffer evil if he does not and can never know or understand it, this seemed unfair to her.
Why does any child have to suffer 'evil' if a child does not and can never know or understand 'evil'? Is that the question the grand mother is essentially asking, but in relation to her grandson, only?
Also, what seems 'unfair' is caused by a very limited perspective or field of view.
Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 4:51 am
Considering that the boy, and assuming that he's free from personal evil and he has a benign personality, this description fits in a way.
Because he chose right while communicating with God before birth, he will never experience evil thoughts. I then asked the gran what would she sacrifice to be so at peace, and we both admitted his sickness is a small price to pay to live an entire life with an unblemished mind.
There is just to much assuming, contradicting, and misunderstanding here to clear up, for now.
Whitedragon wrote: ↑August 15th, 2020, 4:51 am
Coupled with your proposal, this makes even more sense.