Count Lucanor wrote: ↑October 4th, 2020, 1:45 pm
evolution wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2020, 9:15 pm
Also, I ONLY said your statements are WRONG, when you wrote what you were ASSUMING I meant, in what I wrote, which was OBVIOUSLY PLAINLY WRONG.
Unfortunately, what YOU thought that was WRONG was only what you ASSUMED I had meant, not what I actually meant, because only I know what I meant.
Okay.
Let us take a GOOD LOOK INTO this, and then SEE what transpires.
I wrote:
But 'Life', Itself, NEVER 'ends', to me.
You wrote:
But that 'to me' closes the door to any rational debate.
I then asked you two clarifying questions and informed you of:
If you said that, are you then NOT at all OPEN to absolutely ANY thing different than that?
If you are NOT OPEN, then WHY NOT?
1. I do NOT do 'debate'.
2. Saying, 'to me', means, to me, the EXACT OPPOSITE of 'closing'.
Saying, 'to me', means being COMPLETELY OPEN, as I am only expressing the views, from my point of view only. And what is obvious is that my personal point of view/s are NOT necessarily the True, Right, and Correct one/s.
You then wrote:
Your phrase 'to me' is meant to emphasize that a particular statement does not leave the domain of your own subjective experience and beliefs.
So, you made it CLEAR what you actually meant. I then proceeded to inform you:
This is what my phrase 'to me' means, 'to you'.
This is NOT what my phrase 'to me' meant to emphasize AT ALL.
I wrote that so you were CLEAR what I actually meant.
I also informed you of:
Do not forget that I wrote 'it' so I KNOW EXACTLY what was MEANT TO BE EMPHASIZED. Please remember that you are only making ASSUMPTIONS here.
Now, if what you wrote above in the first quote above is even remotely correct, then what do you propose is the part where I am, supposedly; "only ASSUMING what you meant"?
And, if that is WRONG, then what did you ACTUALLY MEAN.
We can also do this another way. You wrote:
Your phrase 'to me' is meant to emphasize that a particular statement does not leave the domain of your own subjective experience and beliefs.
Now, if you did NOT actually mean that my phrase 'to me' is MEANT
to emphasize that a particular statement does not leave the domain of your own subjective experience and beliefs. Then what did you ACTUALLY MEAN?
Count Lucanor wrote: ↑October 4th, 2020, 1:45 pm
By the same token you use, I'm entitled to think and say that you're OBVIOUSLY PLAINLY WRONG.
As ALREADY explained to you; ONLY AFTER what the "other" actually means has been CLARIFIED.
I ALREADY asked you some CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, which you CLEARLY CLARIFIED, (as EVIDENCED and PROVEN above). Therefore, I informed you that the ASSUMPTIONS, which you were making about what I was actually meaning, in what I wrote, were WRONG.
By the way, this, by you so called, 'entitlement' is available to EVERY human being.
Count Lucanor wrote: ↑October 4th, 2020, 1:45 pm
Unless you thought that one can say something is OBVIOUSLY PLAINLY WRONG from any perspective independent of yours, right from the moment it is said, by its own internal logic.
I was NOT saying this AT ALL.
Count Lucanor wrote: ↑October 4th, 2020, 1:45 pm
But you confessed you don't debate, so in any engagement with you it will not be clarified.
I am NOT sure how you define the word 'debate', but I have, obviously, NEVER confessed to what you have said here at all.
Also, because you NEVER clarified with me about what I actually mean when I use the word 'debate', then EVERY you say in regards to that will just be an ASSUMPTION of yours ONLY.
Count Lucanor wrote: ↑October 4th, 2020, 1:45 pm
You can only present your own personal perspective, to what appears to yourself to be true or false, and cannot move beyond this:
You have a VERY TWISTED and DISTORTED take on what I write, and actually mean.
Unless, of course, you do NOT mean what you say here.
Now, if you are going to be Truly Honest, then you WILL explain what you actually mean here.
Do you mean that you can only present your own personal perspective, to what appears to yourself to be true or false, and cannot move beyond this?
Because if this is what you actually mean, then you are COMPLETELY and UTTERLY TOTALLY WRONG, AGAIN.
If, however, you MEANT some thing else, then what did you ACTUALLY MEAN.
Oh, and do not forget, that you have NEVER actually CLARIFIED with me YET what I ACTUALLY MEANT, in regards to NOT 'doing debate'.
Count Lucanor wrote: ↑October 4th, 2020, 1:45 pm
what I am saying is actually True, Right, nor Correct, but ONLY what is appears to be true, right, and correct, from what I have previously observed/experienced.
I think you may have MISSED or MISUNDERSTOOD when I have previously written: I CAN BACK UP and SUPPORT WHAT I WRITE, SAY, and CLAIM.
So, I can well and truly move beyond what I present. In fact I can keep moving forward and beyond. That is; if ANY one wants to challenge me and put me to the test