The educated deniers deny by speculation. The open minded make efforts to consciously "know Thyself" so as to verify the human condition as it manifests within them.Tegularius wrote: ↑June 6th, 2021, 5:20 amIf one could supply meaning by a heaped up set of pure speculation then purpose should never have been a problem in the first place including the incredible nonsense you write as in...Nick_A wrote: ↑June 5th, 2021, 11:15 pmUnderstanding why the ONE and creation are a necessity is not wanted. People prefer to believe either that it arose from nothing or that it always was and will be without purpose.gad-fly wrote: ↑June 5th, 2021, 2:18 pm I must admit being somewhat disappointed at the response so far. i am still expecting more salient and intuitive indications on Why. Whether God exists or whether there was creation are moot points which I am inclined to evade at this juncture.
Nor am I prepared to accept the position not to ask because I am not qualified to question the motive of a higher being, arising from my inferiority complex and fear of regicide. He created because it is not around? The statement is not better than unsaid. I am of the opinion that in this forum you are entitled to show and express what your intelligence allows and encourages, and in the process attain a high level of fulfilment. I have done my part. It is now up to you.
Can humanity exist without objective meaning people feel as the questions of the heart and destroy itself. The state doesn't supply a person's need for meaning. Who or shat will?
Without understanding the purpose of creation, Humanity must blame someone like the Jews or the Armenians for example. A scapegoat offers the reason for human suffering. But what happens when we run out of scapegoats?“Man, the bravest of animals, and the one most accustomed to suffering, does not repudiate suffering as such; he desires it, he even seeks it out, provided he is shown a meaning for it, a purpose of suffering. The meaninglessness of suffering, not suffering itself, was the curse that lay over mankind so far.” (On the Genealogy of Morals, Friedrich Nietzsche)
Your question of the why of creation is essential in the technological world but how many are capable of contemplating it in the presence of what is called educated denial? All this means is that humanity will strive to adjust to a meaningless existence. I don't believe it can so war is inevitable when we run out of scapegoats.
Also, a much, much greater probability of what could make war inevitable may be the future lack of resources which would certainly cause a great deal of geopolitical friction and not anything as stupid as thinking that it's inevitable because we failed to rinse out the meaning or purpose of existence. No war in history ever started because that.Without understanding the purpose of creation, Humanity must blame someone like the Jews or the Armenians for example.
The meaning of existence is to keep existing which for many is a lot harder than it looks.
Educated denial requires the acceptance that "The meaning of existence is to keep existing which for many is a lot harder than it looks."
Kill or be killed. It is the way of the jungle. Can the educated deniers evolve beyond their animal nature to question if objective human meaning is different from animal meaning? Not now, Denial is too strong, but in the future it may be possible