Faith vs Evidence in Religion

Discuss philosophical questions regarding theism (and atheism), and discuss religion as it relates to philosophy. This includes any philosophical discussions that happen to be about god, gods, or a 'higher power' or the belief of them. This also generally includes philosophical topics about organized or ritualistic mysticism or about organized, common or ritualistic beliefs in the existence of supernatural phenomenon.
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Re: Faith vs Evidence in Religion

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Asif wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 7:59 am My point still stands. Apology accepted. There is no aggression here. Just stating my piece.
I know I should leave this here, a minor and inadvertent offence, apologised-for. But I am autistic, as I said, and I find it impossible to ignore your aggressive dismissal of a condition that you clearly know little about.


Pattern-chaser wrote: June 20th, 2021, 12:06 pm Good for you. I wish you luck on your journey of learning! 👍
Asif wrote: June 20th, 2021, 12:09 pm No luck needed,nor passive aggressive comments.
Cheers.
Pattern-chaser wrote: June 20th, 2021, 1:06 pm I'm autistic. My words are used explicitly, and entirely without implication. [More info here]

Your course differs significantly from mine; I wished (and wish) you luck on yours.
Asif wrote: June 20th, 2021, 1:10 pm These days everybody claims a disease.
If you are intelligent enough to debate,you are intelligent enough to know what your words mean and how they come across.
I wish you well to,but I don't like excuses.
Everyone "claims a disease"? Intelligence is not the only faculty one needs to follow the labyrinthine intricacies of human social interaction. Autism is not an "excuse", it is a real and indivisible part of me, and anyone else who shares my condition. I do not have the necessary equipment to conduct social interaction in the way that you are able to do, unconsciously and competently. That part of my brain is wired a little differently, and does not provide me with that invaluable skill. I have to do the best I can with what I have. I don't ask for sympathy, but equally, I would appreciate it if you would not mock or dismiss a genuine disability; life is hard enough as it is. Thanks.
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Re: Faith vs Evidence in Religion

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Pattern-chaser wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 8:41 am
Asif wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 7:59 am My point still stands. Apology accepted. There is no aggression here. Just stating my piece.
I know I should leave this here, a minor and inadvertent offence, apologised-for. But I am autistic, as I said, and I find it impossible to ignore your aggressive dismissal of a condition that you clearly know little about.


Pattern-chaser wrote: June 20th, 2021, 12:06 pm Good for you. I wish you luck on your journey of learning! 👍
Asif wrote: June 20th, 2021, 12:09 pm No luck needed,nor passive aggressive comments.
Cheers.
Pattern-chaser wrote: June 20th, 2021, 1:06 pm I'm autistic. My words are used explicitly, and entirely without implication. [More info here]

Your course differs significantly from mine; I wished (and wish) you luck on yours.
Asif wrote: June 20th, 2021, 1:10 pm These days everybody claims a disease.
If you are intelligent enough to debate,you are intelligent enough to know what your words mean and how they come across.
I wish you well to,but I don't like excuses.
Everyone "claims a disease"? Intelligence is not the only faculty one needs to follow the labyrinthine intricacies of human social interaction. Autism is not an "excuse", it is a real and indivisible part of me, and anyone else who shares my condition. I do not have the necessary equipment to conduct social interaction in the way that you are able to do, unconsciously and competently. That part of my brain is wired a little differently, and does not provide me with that invaluable skill. I have to do the best I can with what I have. I don't ask for sympathy, but equally, I would appreciate it if you would not mock or dismiss a genuine disability; life is hard enough as it is. Thanks.
Not interested in your good cop bad cop routine. Nor your excuses. Your on a forum playing hard. You keep stating im being aggressive,when really I'm just not accepting what you say.
If you don't like my approach,tough. I don't like your victim-splaining but I'm not whinging like you.
Grow up.

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Re: Faith vs Evidence in Religion

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Asif wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 9:08 am Your on a forum playing hard.
No, just playing. Like many others, I come here for enjoyment and entertainment, to discuss interesting things and maybe even learn something.

This is not a place where macho willy-waving is much admired, appreciated, or even encouraged. That's the main reason I come here, and I think this applies to others too. See our forum rules for more information.


Asif wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 9:08 am Not interested in your good cop bad cop routine. Nor your excuses. Your on a forum playing hard. You keep stating im being aggressive,when really I'm just not accepting what you say.
If you don't like my approach,tough. I don't like your victim-splaining but I'm not whinging like you.
Grow up.
I think you mistake explanations, offered to enhance clarity, for excuses, offered to evade blame or responsibility.
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Re: Faith vs Evidence in Religion

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Pattern-chaser wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 12:06 pm
Asif wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 9:08 am Your on a forum playing hard.
No, just playing. Like many others, I come here for enjoyment and entertainment, to discuss interesting things and maybe even learn something.

This is not a place where macho willy-waving is much admired, appreciated, or even encouraged. That's the main reason I come here, and I think this applies to others too. See our forum rules for more information.


Asif wrote: June 22nd, 2021, 9:08 am Not interested in your good cop bad cop routine. Nor your excuses. Your on a forum playing hard. You keep stating im being aggressive,when really I'm just not accepting what you say.
If you don't like my approach,tough. I don't like your victim-splaining but I'm not whinging like you.
Grow up.
I think you mistake explanations, offered to enhance clarity, for excuses, offered to evade blame or responsibility.
Not interested mate.

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