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Sacred Geoemtry: Fundamental or Folly?

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Fundamental or Folly?

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Sacred Geoemtry: Fundamental or Folly?

Post by Abiathar » April 29th, 2008, 5:40 pm

For starters let us designate a specific meaning of topic:

'Sacred geometry is geometry used in the design of sacred architecture and sacred art. The basic belief is that geometry and mathematical ratios, harmonics and proportion are also found in music, light, cosmology. This value system is seen as widespread even in prehistory, a cultural universal of the human condition. It is considered foundational to building sacred structures such as temples, mosques, megaliths, monuments and churches; sacred spaces such as altars, temenoi and tabernacles; meeting places such as sacred groves, village greens and holy wells and the creation of religious art, iconography and using "divine" proportions.'

This concept has been utilized from the construction of the Parthenon, to the Mandala, to the Swastika, and well beyond. It has been an accepted practice, including almost every religion, atleast at one time or another. It was, and has been, the central factor in the construction, lay-out and design of many monuments, temples, structures and even the basic dogma of many small secular cults. Bearing in mind that this has, to some degree, been seen as necessary, even by those religions who denounce such things, it appears to hold strong sway over our history, and our monuments of the past. These monuments include, even, the creation of what we now know as Leylines, or atleast have been attributed to such.

(Leyline: "Archaeological: A new area of archaeological study, archaeogeodesy, examines geodesy as practiced in prehistoric time, and as evidenced by archaeological remains. One major aspect of modern geodesy is surveying. As interpreted by geodesy, the so-called ley lines can be the product of ancient surveying, property markings, or commonly travelled pathways. Numerous societies, ancient and modern, employ straight lines between points of use; archaeologists have documented these traditions. Modern surveying also results in placement of constructs in lines on the landscape. It is reasonable to expect human constructs and activity areas to reflect human use of lines. New Age: The ley lines and their intersection points are believed by some people[attribution needed] to resonate a special psychic or mystical energy, often including elements such as geomancy, dowsing or UFOs, stating that, for instance, UFO's travel along ley lines (in the way that one might observe that cars use roads and highways). This belief postulates that points on lines have electrical or magnetic forces associated with them.")

The functions even appear in our naturally evolved life forms that we deem sub human:

'Many forms observed in nature can be related to geometry (for sound reasons of resource optimization). For example, the chambered nautilus grows at a constant rate and so its shell forms a logarithmic spiral to accommodate that growth without changing shape. Also, honeybees construct hexagonal cells to hold their honey'

So, the question is simple. Does Sacred Geometry truly hold sway, is it the underlying pattern inwhich the universe is laid upon in order to give it foundation and stability, or is this simply the universe's greatest coincidence?

Sacred Geometry contains, and almost explains, the entirety of creation. Inside of this study, we learn interesting things about such things as Hydrogen Atoms, Nitrogen atoms, and of course let us not forget the most abundant atom on our planet, Sillica
There are also, of course, varied molecular structures inwhich fall into the basic thought pattern of sacred geometry, such as Water, Air, etc:

In this we find mere coincidence, so we will then provide a few more examples as we continue through our course. The second and easiest example is the fact that Mayan Calendar Researcher Ian Xel Lungold explains the connection between the Mayan Calendar and Sacred Geometry: "One essential point is the pattern displayed by the Mayan calendar. It is built upon a particular ratio, 13 : 20. These proportions are the true basis of all sacred geometry." In his study of sacred geometry, he found that all forms and understandings boil down to one ratio: one-third to two-thirds. "This is in no way an exact number system, but a general pattern that Creation naturally follows. Our consciousness is based on this ratio"

We must then also remember that one of the designations for the Egyptian God Toth was the God of Sacred Geometry. Christianity, though it cast off most outward semblances of other religions, it too holds true to the pattern.

The design work and patterning of many, many stain-glass windows in Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, as well as much of their symbology, extends back to the common point of Sacred Geometry. This is, as previously stated, appearing to be more than mild coincidence, however let us discuss one other occurance that has thus far been unexplained... Sacred Geometry, on every single one, appears blatantly in the phenomenon known as "crop circles".

The ancient Druids built their Stone Henge and their burial chambers on the grounds of Sacred Geometry, Christian/Islam/Jewish monuments, symbols, and art all depict blatant forms of Sacred Geometry. Egypt had a God of sacred Geometry, the Mayan Calender was based upon it, and Sacred Geometry was a large ground basis of their religion and day to day life. The Chinese arts of Kung Fu all, with their own admissions, rely on Chi, the locations of which having been found in the Sacred Geometrical symbol known as the Tree of Life. African witch-doctors and Native American shaman both used the Wheel of Life and the aptly named 'Medicine Wheel'. All of these races of people, and many more the world over, have subscribed to the concept, and whole hearted accepted it as something that affected day to day life in noticable ways. I would like you to note that all of these people, at the time that all of these things were in common usage, none of them had communications with each other save on the most basic of levels.

Sacred geometry is displayed in life, every day, in even the smallest of insect.

Therefore, sacred geometry is one of two things, still. A Coincidence or the underlying basis for the foundation of physics and metaphysics.

For examples you must find your own pictures, as I cannot display links.

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Post by Abiathar » May 6th, 2008, 12:34 am

Ahh I forgot, I can now post examples: ... f_life.gif

The above symbol has been found carved/drawn in Egypt, Yucatan, the Andes, Asia, Stone Henge, and in African Tribal drawings.

The above displays the most common atoms in the universe aside from Nitrogen and Hydrogen. ... circle.gif

Speaking of, there are Nitrogen and Hydrogen.

The following photographs, if one chooses, may be compared to common sacred geometrical symbols: ... t_2003.jpg ... ay2004.jpg ... rcles1.jpg ... ge2003.jpg

In this we find a few mere coicidences. I will then provide examples from our own ecosystem: ... sShell.jpg ... in_nature/

For more basic information please see (or just ask me for more links):

There are a vast resource of books and websites if anyone wishes titles/links.
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Post by Devamitta » May 11th, 2008, 6:36 pm

I imagine that it is human nature to try to find order in the world. The world is filled with what appears to be chaos, thus humans devise astrology, build things according to what they view as higher design, and even create religions and gods to make sense out of the unknown but perceived workings of the world. We get a crazy system such as Ptolemaic epicycles out of it, but it kind of made order out of chaos so was believed for quite a while.

Even at this moment, I an trying to make order out of the chaos of these figures I am typing and seem to be lsoing th battle sijhd kjdklkt toiopio jbijjh, of you see wat I meen.

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