You are giving me philosophical materialism. I have argued against that at length elsewhere and It is too big of a topic to go into now. Basically, I think materialism is just another example of dark magic. It historically came out of nineteenth century Gothic Romanticism It you're into that then go for it. It's too much womb and tomb for me.
Are we all born an Atheist?
-
- Posts: 1135
- Joined: June 2nd, 2019, 2:30 am
- Favorite Philosopher: Gustav Bergmann
- Location: Kathmandu, Nepal
- Contact:
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
-
- Posts: 1135
- Joined: June 2nd, 2019, 2:30 am
- Favorite Philosopher: Gustav Bergmann
- Location: Kathmandu, Nepal
- Contact:
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
You're coming across as an anti-intellectualist, which I'm sure you are not. What do you think IS worth the effort of thinking about?Jklint wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 7:58 pm No! we're not born atheist, theistic or agnostic. We're born indifferent not even aware that there's a problem until one way or another, perhaps without being aware of it, we're forced to decide which side we're on. The best way to think on the subject is not to think about it at all knowing for certain its a waste of energy and not worth the effort.
- Sy Borg
- Site Admin
- Posts: 14992
- Joined: December 16th, 2013, 9:05 pm
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
Please don't talk dirty at me - I will not tolerate all those nasty -ism wordsGaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 8:07 pmYou are giving me philosophical materialism. I have argued against that at length elsewhere and It is too big of a topic to go into now. Basically, I think materialism is just another example of dark magic. It historically came out of nineteenth century Gothic Romanticism It you're into that then go for it. It's too much womb and tomb for me.
I am simply providing a perspective on phenomena that I find enchanting and fascinating. If you don't share that view it's your loss.
If you want to delve deeper, consider how why chemicals carry these different characteristics.
-
- Posts: 1135
- Joined: June 2nd, 2019, 2:30 am
- Favorite Philosopher: Gustav Bergmann
- Location: Kathmandu, Nepal
- Contact:
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
Sorry about the _isms. I'll try to write more about jism and jimjam. I took chemistry in college but I hated the smell of it and I kept breaking things, so I left it. I did, however, enjoy tinker toys when I was a little kid and that part of chemistry is fun. As for materialism as a philosophy, the idea that thought and consciousness arise magically out of low-level ionization of gray matter is like swamp gas rising up on a dark night. It's creepy. I know that creepiness is popular in the movies, but I never much liked all that. And I also don't like the idea of the Matrix, the Great Mother. This idea of life and mind rising, emerging out of heaving mothers of matter is just modern mythology. As for you having that perspective on phenomena, I don't care. We all have our perspectives.Greta wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 8:36 pmPlease don't talk dirty at me - I will not tolerate all those nasty -ism wordsGaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 8:07 pm
You are giving me philosophical materialism. I have argued against that at length elsewhere and It is too big of a topic to go into now. Basically, I think materialism is just another example of dark magic. It historically came out of nineteenth century Gothic Romanticism It you're into that then go for it. It's too much womb and tomb for me.
I am simply providing a perspective on phenomena that I find enchanting and fascinating. If you don't share that view it's your loss.
If you want to delve deeper, consider how why chemicals carry these different characteristics.
-
- Posts: 1135
- Joined: June 2nd, 2019, 2:30 am
- Favorite Philosopher: Gustav Bergmann
- Location: Kathmandu, Nepal
- Contact:
-
- Posts: 948
- Joined: February 16th, 2018, 11:28 am
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
Children are born personifiers. They personify stuff, and not just stuff modern, non-panspsychists consider conscious. Of course the wee ones fresh from the womb are just warming this process up, personifying mom and dad and moving from there and not thinking words like 'god'. But even without outside influence they will see sentience and intention and emotion all over the place.Greta wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 7:47 pm Re: the OP question, we are each born as a apatheist.
An apatheist is someone who is not interested in accepting or rejecting any claims that gods exist or do not exist. For the newborn apatheist, the existence of God is not rejected, but is deemed irrelevant due to a fierce preference for sticking one's infant face into big, warm and milky balloons.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 103828.htm
- Sculptor1
- Posts: 7086
- Joined: May 16th, 2019, 5:35 am
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
That you think it is unnatural because anuses are not "designed" for penises.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 16th, 2019, 12:12 amI'm curious. What delusion about homosexuality are you referring to.
-
- Posts: 1135
- Joined: June 2nd, 2019, 2:30 am
- Favorite Philosopher: Gustav Bergmann
- Location: Kathmandu, Nepal
- Contact:
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
I don't know who the "you" is that you mentioned, but I think it is a match made in heaven. Literally.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑June 17th, 2019, 7:14 amThat you think it is unnatural because anuses are not "designed" for penises.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 16th, 2019, 12:12 am
I'm curious. What delusion about homosexuality are you referring to.
- Sculptor1
- Posts: 7086
- Joined: May 16th, 2019, 5:35 am
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
Gibberish.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 17th, 2019, 7:22 amI don't know who the "you" is that you mentioned, but I think it is a match made in heaven. Literally.
-
- Posts: 948
- Joined: February 16th, 2018, 11:28 am
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
He's not the guy who said homosexual sex is unnatural, so the first part of that sentence should be utterly clear. Then he's positive about anal sex, presumably from his own experience of it.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑June 17th, 2019, 2:22 pmGibberish.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 17th, 2019, 7:22 am
I don't know who the "you" is that you mentioned, but I think it is a match made in heaven. Literally.
-
- Posts: 1719
- Joined: February 23rd, 2012, 3:06 am
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
That which offers interest for investment. Not much to be had from an empty god account! From this you may conclude that I'm really more anti-intellectual!GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 8:21 pmYou're coming across as an anti-intellectualist, which I'm sure you are not. What do you think IS worth the effort of thinking about?Jklint wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 7:58 pm No! we're not born atheist, theistic or agnostic. We're born indifferent not even aware that there's a problem until one way or another, perhaps without being aware of it, we're forced to decide which side we're on. The best way to think on the subject is not to think about it at all knowing for certain its a waste of energy and not worth the effort.
-
- Posts: 1135
- Joined: June 2nd, 2019, 2:30 am
- Favorite Philosopher: Gustav Bergmann
- Location: Kathmandu, Nepal
- Contact:
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
Yes, I am not that guy, but I might say that anal sex is unnatural. Hang on, I’m going to talk metaphysics. I did say that it was a match made in heaven, which makes it supernatural. I guess the supernatural is also the unnatural. In the natural world everything has a function and a purpose. Everything works for the preservation of the individual, the species, the selfish gene or whatever. That seems to be the current idea in evolution theory. In the natural world you are trapped. You have to go along. A dark spirit calls you. You must pro-create. That is the vision of Naturphilosophie and the Hegelian Spirit. My supernaturalism is a rebellion against all that. If you want, if you’re in rut, you can go stick your genes in the dark hole of Nature, but I’m outta here.Karpel Tunnel wrote: ↑June 17th, 2019, 4:00 pmHe's not the guy who said homosexual sex is unnatural, so the first part of that sentence should be utterly clear. Then he's positive about anal sex, presumably from his own experience of it.
Anal sex is gloriously without purpose. It is contemplative. (I do have experience with that.) It is worship of visible Form, not the hidden urges. I am a supernaturalist all the way. Now if you are itchin’ to say “Gibberish”, go for it.
-
- Posts: 1135
- Joined: June 2nd, 2019, 2:30 am
- Favorite Philosopher: Gustav Bergmann
- Location: Kathmandu, Nepal
- Contact:
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
When you say "investment" I presume you mean "investiture". Presumably, you are a priest in the dark hole of the empty god (or goddess). Call in the accountants!! Holy Writ!!Jklint wrote: ↑June 17th, 2019, 5:09 pmThat which offers interest for investment. Not much to be had from an empty god account! From this you may conclude that I'm really more anti-intellectual!GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 15th, 2019, 8:21 pm
You're coming across as an anti-intellectualist, which I'm sure you are not. What do you think IS worth the effort of thinking about?
- Sculptor1
- Posts: 7086
- Joined: May 16th, 2019, 5:35 am
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
Okay - my error.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 17th, 2019, 5:43 pm Yes, I am not that guy, ...
Anal sex is gloriously without purpose.
As for anal sex being "unnatural" its irrelevant . Blow jobs are might seem without purpose too, but I not be happy to live without mine.
Anal sex, blow jobs, and even wanking - are all very purposeful indeed. Since when was sex just about getting pregnant anyway?
Bonobos and humans love to do it. I love to do it. I'm just through doing it, and I'm ready to do it again. I have one child. God only knows how many times I've had sex.
I'm no fan of anal, but a hole is a hole.
-
- Posts: 1719
- Joined: February 23rd, 2012, 3:06 am
Re: Are we all born an Atheist?
No! I mean return on investment. Nothing to do with investiture! Arguably I don't like wasting time on empty set concepts which yields nothing upon examination.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑June 17th, 2019, 5:52 pmWhen you say "investment" I presume you mean "investiture". Presumably, you are a priest in the dark hole of the empty god (or goddess). Call in the accountants!! Holy Writ!!
2023/2024 Philosophy Books of the Month
Mark Victor Hansen, Relentless: Wisdom Behind the Incomparable Chicken Soup for the Soul
by Mitzi Perdue
February 2023
Rediscovering the Wisdom of Human Nature: How Civilization Destroys Happiness
by Chet Shupe
March 2023