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Is religion created by human?

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Is religion created by human?

Post by froud » May 8th, 2008, 4:19 am

Is religion created by human?

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Post by Scott » May 8th, 2008, 9:19 am

I think all religions have been created by humans.

Religious stories and beliefs can be created by deceitful humans intentionally making up and spreading myths. They can also be created by the hallucinations and delusions of one or more people. Religious stories and beliefs can also be created by mistaken science and logic, by which I mean people can irrationally come to untrue conclusions when analyzing accurate data. They can also be created by the literal interpretation of some stories and teachings that were meant to be metaphorical by the human(s) that that came up with the stories or teachings.

I assume most religious people would claim that their own religion's religious beliefs are not created but are found because they are true. Alternatively, the religious people might phrase it by claiming that there religion and beliefs were created by their god(s) as opposed to being created by humans. But these religious people can agree that all other religions were created by humans, namely via the methods I mentioned in the previous paragraph. The religious people of each religion generally think other religions are myths created and believed by humans, while they each think their own religion is accurate.

In the name of consistency, I personally think all religions are myths. Generally, I think it is far more likely that a supernatural story or explanation is more likely a human creation than actually true. And that's only counting the religious claims that are meaningful propositions as opposed to meaningless nonsense.

I assume almost all atheists would agree that religion is created by humans because atheists do not believe there is any god(s) or other supernatural entities that could create religion or give it to humans.

In the interest of not turning this thread into only a debate about whether religious claims are actually true or accurate, I ask the following questions to religious people: How do you believe your religion was created? How do you believe other religions were created? Assuming you believe your religion was created differently than other religions, why do you believe that your religion was created differently?

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Post by anarchyisbliss » May 8th, 2008, 6:06 pm

Of course, unless other species also have religions, but I think what your asking is whether or not religion was a creation; yes. Its just like science or math or literature they were all inventions.
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Post by mike » May 8th, 2008, 7:04 pm

invented or real? sweet question jerseyshirt. Believing some invention can give someone complete confidence to do somthing they would not have done otherwise. Where as stating the truth can be a form of deathdealing. Remember, the truth with any value heard, is by ears ready to hear it.

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Post by Abiathar » May 8th, 2008, 7:41 pm

Religion, to put it simply, was put into place by Humanity (on this particular planet). It is seldom that we enter a church to find a deer at the pulpit. However, the true question that comes of this is whether religion created humans...?
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Post by mike » May 8th, 2008, 8:15 pm

I think that what defines the "real" questions is wheather they're worth asking. There's no way to answer whether religion created man (?) or vice versa here on earth so...

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Post by mike » May 8th, 2008, 8:18 pm

"A witty saying seeks not to prove anything" Mike

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Re: Is religion created by human?

Post by Devamitta » May 11th, 2008, 5:46 pm

froud wrote:Is religion created by human?
Not being aware of any other creature that makes religion, I have to say yes.

From whence does it come in humans? That is another question, and I submit it comes from two things--ignorance of the way things are, and fear of what might be.

Of course, layered upon that initial quest for creating religion, comes the later "ethical" response which tries to satisfy the question at the root of religion--why are we here? Thus, morality and ethics come about and all sundry of crazy stories, like trinity, original sin, heaven and hell, innumerable virgins awaiting the saint, etc.

All basis story lines need to try to resolve the inconsistencies, thus we embellish our religion with all kinds of plot lines to keep the people in the pews amused and confused, and a whole lot fearful about exactly what will happen after all goes dark. It may not matter that the story make ultimate sense, just that we have a story to attach to that brings comfort and assurance in the face of the absurdity of livng.

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Post by Devamitta » May 11th, 2008, 5:53 pm

The Bible says God created man in his (her) image. But of course we all know that man has created God in his/her image. Thus we have a God who needs praise, gets angry when it doesn't get its way, is jealous, is in need of company, and, fortunately, at times compassionate, etc. Just add the petty things we make our God demand, and the sometimes kind actions we commit, and see the mirror is held up to our own likeness.

God is a lot more fun when he is like us. Omnipotence, omniscience, and being all-good are the ingredients for a character in a movie we get bored with rather quickly. Better he/she be like we are.

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Post by willowtreeme » July 24th, 2008, 3:12 pm

My assertion would be that religion evolved through humanity. The word religion comes from the Latin term "religare" which means "to bind". Perhaps it is what we felt at the time we needed.

I feel that God does not bind. God is freedom.

God created spirituality by way of His nature and we have been endowed with that same nature.

I feel that we are spiritual people who have forgotten this and tend to lean more toward religion,
and that which binds.

There is a world of distance between Spirituality and Religion.

The distance between a Mother Theresa and the one who would kill in the name of God.

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Post by mark black » July 24th, 2008, 9:18 pm

everything scott said, only more so...

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Post by NEO » November 30th, 2008, 6:55 pm

Of coarse religion was created by man,all religions seem to have a necessary common denominator, God. Clergymen have turned God to a secondary figure or a means for other ends. Monotheistic religions have been transformed to polytheism by the creation of idols after the departure of their original messengers. Division and hostility among religions were started by clergymen, the creator of human idols and their stories about salvation.

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Re: Is religion created by human?

Post by nameless » December 1st, 2008, 3:46 am

froud wrote:Is religion created by human?
Is anything 'created' by humans?

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Post by Belinda » December 1st, 2008, 6:18 am

Humans are social animals and it is in the interests of society that individuals are bound together(Willowtreeme explains the word 'religion). Religion binds people together by way of myths that explain how the world was made, how humans ought to behave towards each other and towards themselves, and how the rulers and priests ought to be especially respected. Religion is very useful especially in times of war when people are required by their rulers to especially exert themselves.

I agree with nameless that humans did not create religion but that is not to say that some supernatural being created religion.Religion evolved as part of human behaviour.


I also agree with Scott.

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Post by Dewey » December 1st, 2008, 4:40 pm

Belinda wrote:

I agree with nameless that humans did not create religion but that is not to say that some supernatural being created religion.Religion evolved as part of human behaviour.

Locked in their particular theories about existence, some metaphysicians may not see any contradiction between "humans did not create religion" and "Religion evolved as part of human behavior.". But the rest of us will be profoundly puzzled when we look at the dictionery's definition of "create" and read: "to cause to exist".

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