Being arrogant and self-centered is a quality that most children acquire from their parents. So first of all that bad influence has to be eliminated. Most of these kids show that nature from their childhood and they are the ones that usually become bullies. Similar kinds gang up together, amd that makes their bad behaviours and practices worse. Identifying such children is the beginning for the process of correcting them. First we have to try by advising. Then such gangs has to be disbanded by putting them in different classes and informing their parents. If the problem seems psychological early and appropriate interventions has to be done. If it is not so and the child cannot be corrected by other means physical punishments has to be used.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑August 24th, 2021, 6:17 pmJust for one example, people on these boards (really any academic subject-oriented board in general) tend to be unduly arrogant, argumentative/stubborn a-holes. There are a variety of reasons for this, with some cases probably sourced in disorders. What would you say are the disciplinary actions we could have taken with these folks as youths to avoid this sort of behavior as adults, and now that they're adults exhibiting these personality issues, do you believe that they're correctable via education or any other way?Sushan wrote: ↑August 24th, 2021, 5:02 pmFirst of all, I am sorry if I could not make it clear, but what I have told is exactly the same thing. If one is only having a personality issue then that can be addressed by education. But if it is a personality disorder (including personality issues that have occurred as results of personality disorder/disorders, and then there is no more value in calling it as an 'issue' since we have already diagnosed it as an illness/disorder) then a psycological approach is necessary.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 6:54 amSure. So then you should be careful to not make the cleavage seem as if you'd be saying that "personality issues" somehow excludes "personality disorders." You'd want to say that you believe that personality issues can be taken care of with education, but not when they're the result of personality disorders.
I just wouldn't call that education. I wouldn't say that education is the same thing as attempts to condition. I would say that education is the presentation of and guidance through (believed) factual information in various academic fields. That can include psychological and sociological information such as how others are likely to react to certain personality traits, but I'm of the opinion that the presentation of that information isn't likely to change those personality traits in people who have them. Can conditioning change them? Perhaps, if the conditioning is severe and sustained enough. But I just wouldn't call that education. I'd also consider severe and sustained enough conditioning to itself be indicative of a personality issue (if not disorder).I strongly believe that disciplining a child should be a part of education.
Yes, we can show people (psycologically and sociologically) how others will react towards them in various circumstances, and assume to correct their selves and behave accordingly. But will it be applicable to a large percentage of the society? Will it be applicable to anyone with any IQ level? Most importantly is it applicable to young children?
Most will be corrected after one or several of these interventions. If anyone remains like that after all the interventions then they have to be kept away from the society without giving them any responsible or authoritative jobs. And it should be shown as an example to others to discourage any building up of such bad qualities or behaviours.