You have a strange concept of what constitutes "force". The only "force" involved in shoplifting is that required to lift the product to your pocket -- minor indeed. Trespassing is not "forcibly taking the property of another" -- it isn't "forcible" and it isn't "taking the property of another".GE Morton wrote: ↑January 19th, 2022, 3:57 pm
Sorry, but they are. Shoplifting and trespassing are forcibly taking the property of another. So is "keeping goods they have made in the employ of someone else," if those goods were made pursuant to a contract with that person. It is another form of stealing.
Preventing people from crossing borders illegally is justified force. It is a form of trespassing --- forcibly entering upon the property of another without permission.
You are dependent on your own definitions of property to claim that any of these legal infractions are immoral -- and are straining credulity to say they are "forcible". However, they are clearly prevented and punished with the use of force. Of course you are right that given standard property law, trespassing, entering countries illegally, and shoplifting are illegal, and perhaps it is jutified to use force to prevent them or punish transgressors. I grant that. But why you insist that walking from one spot to another is "forcibly taking the property of another" is unclear. Common sense says such a claim is ridiculous. That's why "trespassing" and "robbery' are two distinct crimes.