Sculptor1 wrote: ↑February 10th, 2023, 4:20 pm
Mounce574 wrote: ↑February 10th, 2023, 4:55 am
Define high capacity? And how would registering a weapon do anything? It's a piece of paper that doesn't change how a person will handle the weapon when they leave the store. Also, in regards to a high capacity magazine, what if the person carries multiple 10 round magazines?
From what I understand, if you shoot someone in self-defense, say a home invasion, you want to have as many shots available to you to stop the deadly threat.
Arguably the constitution allowed citizens to carry guns, which took 30 seconds to re-load in the hands of an expert, and in a time when there was a real threat from "native" peoples who were suffering a systematic genocide from the whites.
Oddly this seems to mean that any clown with enough cash can buy any weapon he wants for any reason he sees fit.
Ask what are the reasonable means necessary for a citizen to protect himself, and does that include an automatic weapon? Maybe a grenade launcher, or a tank?
You seem to suggest that it is just too difficult to define what is an appropriate weapon so why even try.
And it is rather obvious that the US has descended into a deeper and deeper spiral of fear and escalation.
I don't think automatic weapons should be available to everyone.
Reasonable mean: Castle doctrine/stand your ground laws (these vary by state) allows for a person to use deadly force if in reasonable fear for bodily harm of self or a third party (children, spouse, etc). If you miss hitting the person but they still flee, you cannot pursue them as they are not longer a threat. That is a job for law enforcement to do.
Most of the gun homicides that occur in the United States are with hand guns that hold a regular capacity magazine (10 to 12 rounds).
Personally, I have several weapons. For concealed carry I use a Ruger SRC that holds a 12 rounds clip. My 7 mag rifle is a semi-automatic with a 5 round clip. I also have an AR-15 which fires the same size ammunition as the the 7 mag, has a 10 round clip, and the kickback is not as hard. I have a black powder rifle but it is a family heirloom that will never be used and is in a locked display case. Then I have a pump style shot gun capable of slug or bird shot.
Of the above weapons I just listed, which one would a home intruder fear the most? Surprisingly, it would be the shot-gun which is less capable of killing a person at a distance, but the bird shot spreads and is likely to do more than leave a mark. I am more accurate with the AR-15 and 7-Mag. My concealed carry is a .40 caliber and holds hydra-shocks. It's purpose is to debilitate a person who threatens me within a 20 foot range.
I reiterate that by registering a weapon, it does nothing but produce a paper. What is the purpose? To obtain a weapon, there are already laws where a background check is run, you have to provide identification- which is copied, and provide a way to prove your address. That is just to purchase one. What else should be added to this?
Grenade launchers on the M16 style weapons were highly ineffective (I was in the Army and know this from experience). A tank requires licensing.