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3uGH7D4MLj wrote:Everyone knows what n***** means. It's not so mysterious.
Yet they still cry about it. Because it has a negative image attached to it, something that reminds them of their past negative influence or experience.
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"So you don't think people should avoid using the N word, and people who are referred to by the N word should just deal with it."

But now black folk often call each other that, it can be a term of endearment, but if a white guy says it, it's an insult... so there are even politically correct forms of political correctness.
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My understanding about the use of the N word is if it is the five-lettered form of the word ending in a and if it's used by black people among themselves, then it's politically correct, otherwise it isn't.

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I think humanity should learn from the mistake, to not put images or things behind a word in a negative manner that will result in a rememberance of a negative past or experience.

I think it is pretty absurd, and ridiculous that they call each other N, but when someone of a different creed is using the word for the actual definition, it is bad. It is because of that past rememberance of the negative experience of which they had to face. If they never had to face that problem with the N word being forced onto them, despite the original and intended definition of it, then perhaps they would not be acting this way now.
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Philosophy Explorer wrote:I'm in the middle on this one.

One the one hand, it infringes on my freedom of speech. Can't even make jokes about groups without being called on it and I don't regard it as a personal attack because it is a group joke. Another case, e.g., is you're not supposed to use gender if you say salesgirl, now you're supposed to say sales clerk. Hiding jokes and gender isn't going to make them less of a joke or make males and females any more gender neutral. Better to be out in the open with it (btw there are females that are proud to be identified by their gender).

On the other hand I think most of the complaints are made by groups, not individuals which carries less weight with me. Exactly why individuals would complain about jokes which are obviously jokes and not meant to be taken seriously is beyond me. Maybe someone can explain why they get offended by jokes.

To mention, this type of thread has been done before. Time has passed with new members aboard and maybe the mood in the US has shifted (along with other countries).

What say you to this?

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I'm a revolutionary nihilist so I've got a pretty good handle on this. Political correctness is merely a tactic of cultural Marxism. Cultural Marxism is essentially cultural terrorism - a sustained and relentless attack on and destruction of a culture. It is a method aimed at fracturing the civil society into factions - radical identity politics - and instigating an internal conflict which culminates in the apparatus of state losing the monopoly of force and a single faction usurping the state. Essentially a tactic to instigate a civil war. The idea dates back to Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfurt School. Political correctness is best understood as part of a post-war Soviet mind control operation gone awry.
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Can you give an example of this insidious horror?

-- Updated August 15th, 2014, 8:23 am to add the following --
NihilistSage wrote:I'm a revolutionary nihilist so I've got a pretty good handle on this. Political correctness is merely a tactic of cultural Marxism. Cultural Marxism is essentially cultural terrorism - a sustained and relentless attack on and destruction of a culture. It is a method aimed at fracturing the civil society into factions - radical identity politics - and instigating an internal conflict which culminates in the apparatus of state losing the monopoly of force and a single faction usurping the state. Essentially a tactic to instigate a civil war. The idea dates back to Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfurt School. Political correctness is best understood as part of a post-war Soviet mind control operation gone awry.
Nice analysis, but can you give an example for discussion? an example of this culture-destroying terrorism?
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3uGH7D4MLj wrote:Can you give an example of this insidious horror?

-- Updated August 15th, 2014, 8:23 am to add the following --
NihilistSage wrote:I'm a revolutionary nihilist so I've got a pretty good handle on this. Political correctness is merely a tactic of cultural Marxism. Cultural Marxism is essentially cultural terrorism - a sustained and relentless attack on and destruction of a culture. It is a method aimed at fracturing the civil society into factions - radical identity politics - and instigating an internal conflict which culminates in the apparatus of state losing the monopoly of force and a single faction usurping the state. Essentially a tactic to instigate a civil war. The idea dates back to Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfurt School. Political correctness is best understood as part of a post-war Soviet mind control operation gone awry.
Nice analysis, but can you give an example for discussion? an example of this culture-destroying terrorism?
It's complex. Are you familiar with the writings of Soviet KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov? Do you understand how academia became Marxist post-WWII? The Frankfurt school? The cultural revolution of the 60's? The radical identity politics that emerged - the "New Left" - feminism, radical "LGBT" politics, "gender" studies, historical revisionism in academia, radical race politics, multiculturalism, ecofascism, the Cloward and Piven strategy, Saul Alinsky etc.?
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Yeah, so?

Give us an example to consider, something specific we can discuss.

-- Updated September 11th, 2014, 1:26 pm to add the following --

It seems like Political Correctness is easy to rail against in the abstract. You can call it "the new McCarthyism" or "a tactic of cultural Marxism." Or "a method aimed at fracturing the civil society into factions," as if it was a conspiracy.

But there are no examples given.

Political correctness is "chairperson" or "chair" instead of "chairman," "disabled person" instead of "cripple." When you get down to the actual instances of PC it doesn't need defending. It's just proper and respectful naming.
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