Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Have philosophical discussions about politics, law, and government.
Featured Article: Definition of Freedom - What Freedom Means to Me
Locked
User avatar
Sy Borg
Site Admin
Posts: 14997
Joined: December 16th, 2013, 9:05 pm

Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Sy Borg »

Misappropriated content-free post removed.
Fooloso4
Posts: 3601
Joined: February 28th, 2014, 4:50 pm

Re: Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Fooloso4 »

Dachshund:
You need to check your facts before you open your mouth on a scientific issue like this.
That is good advice but it is obvious that you have not followed it. The facts do not confirm your racial bias.

The following article by Hank Pellissier of the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies looks at the reasons for the low test results.

Six Brain-Damage Scourges that Cripple IQ in Sub-Saharan Africa https://ieet.org/index.php/IEET2/more/ ... er20120307


Disease - Malaria, Diarrhea, Tuberculosis, Intestinal Worms (helminth infections)

Violence - Civil Strife, Domestic Violence, Child Sexual Abuse, Female Genital Mutilation

Malnutrition - Iodine Deficiency, Iron Deficiency (anemia), Lack of Breastfeeding

Poverty

Pollution - Lead Poisoning, Air Pollution (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons)

Illiteracy

As to genetics it points to - Sickle-cell disease, Cousin marriage (consanguinity)


The findings of a study published in Scientific American reached similar conclusion:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... me-places/
So far, the evidence suggests that infectious disease is a primary cause of the global variation in human intelligence.
User avatar
Sy Borg
Site Admin
Posts: 14997
Joined: December 16th, 2013, 9:05 pm

Re: Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Sy Borg »

I didn't know about that. It seems that health bias can be added to cultural bias.
Eduk
Posts: 2466
Joined: December 8th, 2016, 7:08 am
Favorite Philosopher: Socrates

Re: Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Eduk »

IQ is very important. As is empathy. As is altruism. As is humility. The value of a human is not so easy to measure, even if you do have a high IQ. Know this Dachshund that while we would save the weak from bullies we would also save the bullies from themselves (and we would even like to save you).
Unknown means unknown.
User avatar
Burning ghost
Posts: 3065
Joined: February 27th, 2016, 3:10 am

Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Burning ghost »

Greta wrote: October 31st, 2018, 7:10 pm I didn't know about that. It seems that health bias can be added to cultural bias.
It’s more about prenatal development. The so called “cultural” bias IQ tests is negligiable and/or in some tests almost completelt irradicated.

The “culture” argument against IQ tests is almost completelt unfounded. The kind of IQ tests I’m talking about don’t require literacy or cultural knowledge. The general knowledge type questions with the written word involved test for people who were born and lived in an environment - thus it shows, roughly, how people absorb common knowledge.

The disease issue and nutrition ALL relate to prenatal development. Especially cortisol. High cortisol, or proclivity to produce cortisol, will be passed on to the next few generations. This essentially means that if you took people from such regions and placed them in a western country with health care and good nutrition then it wouldn’t improve their potential IQ score because that was determined before they were born to a much larger degree. Their daughters’s, daughter’s children, given they have a reasonably decent life will not suffer the knock-on effects of prenatal cortisol.

If you took any group of people and put them in an enivronment of high stress then over a few generations IQ rate would drop dramatically. The “latent” intelligence is still there it is simply inhibited by hormonal responses to envirnomentsl cues (remember, this means the mother, her blood and how it affects the development of a fetus.)

Note: All this harks back to the incredibly confusing term “heritability”
AKA badgerjelly
User avatar
Sy Borg
Site Admin
Posts: 14997
Joined: December 16th, 2013, 9:05 pm

Re: Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Sy Borg »

Burning ghost wrote: November 1st, 2018, 1:29 amThe kind of IQ tests I’m talking about don’t require literacy or cultural knowledge. The general knowledge type questions with the written word involved test for people who were born and lived in an environment - thus it shows, roughly, how people absorb common knowledge.
Has a new kind of IQ test been developed? It the IQ tests I have always known of definitely have built in cultural bias.
User avatar
Burning ghost
Posts: 3065
Joined: February 27th, 2016, 3:10 am

Re: Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Burning ghost »

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by “cultural bias”?

Usually tests are set up to to test ability and precision, abstract thought and pattern recognition. None of these things are culturally exclusive. If you’re referring to language then literacy can play a part, but there are tests that require minimal verbal instruction.

If you have questions about US history or TV shows then that is obviously culturally bias. Within a set “cultural environment” those types of questions ca be useful as they show how well people absorb information (it’s not ideal though because that liley says more about personality type - proclivity to socialise - more than “intelligence”.)
AKA badgerjelly
Dachshund
Posts: 513
Joined: October 11th, 2017, 5:30 pm

Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Dachshund »

Steve,



(A) I that the issue of race and IQ has important implications for social policy. For instance when you are looking at a white- majority nation like the US where the average IQ of the White American is about 100 points , then the prospect of encouraging mass immigration for sub-Saharan African republics for cheap labour must be ruled out. This is because the average IQ if the black inhabitants of these States hovers around 70 point, which according the official diagnostic criteria set down for psychiatrists in the US represents mild mental retardation. When you inject large numbers of adults who have mild mental retardation into an advanced modern technological Western society like North America the inevitable result consequence will be chaos and disaster across every major domain of life activity. So, for both the benefit of the mainstream white population and that of the prospective black African immigrants segregation is the only humane policy. Australia provides a shocking and profoundly tragic example of what happens when a native population of black aboriginals with an extremely low average IQ ( 64 points) are permitted to intermingle freely in a White /European -majority society where the average IQ is much higher: mass unemployment, chronic welfare dependency, high rates of drug abuse, endemic domestic violence, high prevalences of psychiatric and medical illness, high rates of youth suicide, shortened life expectancy, high rates of criminality ( esp violent) and incarceration, high numbers of homeless individuals, educational failure, endemic family dysfunction/breakdown and child abuse, and the list goes on and on.


(B) With regard to the gross anatomy of the African Negro many features are unmistakably Ape-like, for instance:


(1) The Negro skull in addition to having a smaller brain volume, and thicker cranial bones than that of a White, is Prognathious; i.e; the lower face projects forward in the manner of an animal's muzzle. The Negro jaw is substantially longer, relative to its width, than the white jaw. A feature of the Negro lower jaw is its retention of a vestige of the "Simian Shelf", a bony region immediately behind the incisors. The "Simian Shelf" is a distinguishing characteristic of Apes, and it is absent in Whites.


(2) They emit a peculiar offensive body odour similar to Apes.


(3) The arms and legs of the Negro are relatively longer than the White European. The humerus is shorter and the forearm longer, thereby approximating the Ape form.


(4) The eye often has a yellowish scierotic coat over it like that of the gorilla.


(5) the Negro has a shorter trunk; the cross-section of the chest is more circular than in Whites. Similar to an Ape.


(6) The pelvis is narrower and longer as it is in an Ape.


(7) The Negro has a larger and shorter neck akin to that of Apes.


(8) The ears are roundish, rather small, standing somewhat high and detached thus approaching the Ape form.


(9) The jaw is larger and stronger and protrudes outward which, along with the retreating forehead, gives a facial angle of 68 - 70 degrees, like an Ape, as opposed to a facial angle of 80 - 82 degrees for White Europeans.


(10) The three curvatures of the spine are less pronounced in the Negro than in the White and thus more characteristic of an Ape.


(11) The two bones of the nose are occasionally united as in Apes. Nose often "flattened" as it is in primates.


(12) In "The Descent of Man", Charles Darwin stated that the Negros are so distinct that similar differences found in any other animal would warrant their classification as a different species.


(C) I am not sure at all what you're getting at in your last paragraph when you refer to me ( Dachshund) personally? So let me simply say this... As a White man living in the West my concern is that (1) immigration policy must always be tailored to minimize the number of individuals of any foreign ethic/racial grouping whose average IQ is substantially lower ( i.e. 20 to 30 points or more) than the average White IQ ( which is about 100 points) who are permitted to legally reside in any of the major Anglophone Nation States ( USA, UK, Australia, etc.) and (2) where there are sizable numbers such persons who have acquired legal citizenship, very careful thought must be given to the drafting and mode of implementation of social policies in order that will be effectively prevented from inflicting any kind of of harm/burden on: the State in general; its statutory institutions (legal,educational political, etc.); the healthy functioning of the economy, the State's dominant cultural values/customs/traditions, the general welfare of members of mainstream society, and so on.



Regards


Dachshund
User avatar
Burning ghost
Posts: 3065
Joined: February 27th, 2016, 3:10 am

The Confusion of “Race” and Genetics

Post by Burning ghost »

THIS IS WHERE THE NEW POSTS CAN BEGIN:
AKA badgerjelly
Belindi
Moderator
Posts: 6105
Joined: September 11th, 2016, 2:11 pm

Re: Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Belindi »

In the 1960s, U.S. physical anthropology underwent a period of introspection that marked a change from the old physical anthropology that was largely race based to the new physical anthropology, espoused by Washburn and others for over a decade, which incorporated the evolutionary biology of the modern synthesis. What actually changed? What elements of the race concept have been rejected, and what elements have persisted, influencing physical anthropology today? In this article, I examine both the scientific and social influences on physical anthropology that caused changes in the race concept, in particular the influence of the American Anthropological Association. The race concept is complicated but entails three attributes: essentialism, cladistic thinking, and biological determinism. These attributes have not all been discarded; while biological determinism and its social implications have been questioned since the inception of the field, essentialism and the concomitant rendering of populations as clades persists as a legacy of the race concept. [Keywords: race, essentialism, physical anthropology]

Citing Literature
Publication cover image
Volume105, Issue1

March 2003

Pages 65-76

This article also appears in:
Genetics, Biology, and Race: Understanding Human Difference

Figures
References
Related
Information
Metrics

Citations: 41


Dachshund might come to understand that the politics of power relations are now understood to have influenced 19th century anthropologists. This problem is now addressed by modern anthropologists, including physical anthropologists.
Belindi
Moderator
Posts: 6105
Joined: September 11th, 2016, 2:11 pm

Re: Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Belindi »

https://www.americananthro.org/ConnectW ... umber=2583

This article is shortish and accessible to people who have not studied physical anthropology.

If Dachshund wishes he can study the anthropologist Franz Boas who added knowledge about the influence of culture upon physical characteristics , including bony structures. Here is an exerpt:

Physical variations in any given trait tend to occur gradually rather than abruptly over geographic areas. And because physical traits are inherited independently of one another, knowing the range of one trait does not predict the presence of others. For example, skin color varies largely from light in the temperate areas in the north to dark in the tropical areas in the south; its intensity is not related to nose shape or hair texture. Dark skin may be associated with frizzy or kinky hair or curly or wavy or straight hair, all of which are found among different indigenous peoples in tropical regions. These facts render any attempt to establish lines of division among biological populations both arbitrary and subjective.
Fooloso4
Posts: 3601
Joined: February 28th, 2014, 4:50 pm

Re: Understanding Trump's Use of Language

Post by Fooloso4 »

Thank you Belindi.Race is not the clear cut distinction it is often assumed to be.

Dachshund does not wish to study or even look at anything that does not conform to his racial/political biases.
Locked

Return to “Philosophy of Politics”

2023/2024 Philosophy Books of the Month

Entanglement - Quantum and Otherwise

Entanglement - Quantum and Otherwise
by John K Danenbarger
January 2023

Mark Victor Hansen, Relentless: Wisdom Behind the Incomparable Chicken Soup for the Soul

Mark Victor Hansen, Relentless: Wisdom Behind the Incomparable Chicken Soup for the Soul
by Mitzi Perdue
February 2023

Rediscovering the Wisdom of Human Nature: How Civilization Destroys Happiness

Rediscovering the Wisdom of Human Nature: How Civilization Destroys Happiness
by Chet Shupe
March 2023

The Unfakeable Code®

The Unfakeable Code®
by Tony Jeton Selimi
April 2023

The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are

The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are
by Alan Watts
May 2023

Killing Abel

Killing Abel
by Michael Tieman
June 2023

Reconfigurement: Reconfiguring Your Life at Any Stage and Planning Ahead

Reconfigurement: Reconfiguring Your Life at Any Stage and Planning Ahead
by E. Alan Fleischauer
July 2023

First Survivor: The Impossible Childhood Cancer Breakthrough

First Survivor: The Impossible Childhood Cancer Breakthrough
by Mark Unger
August 2023

Predictably Irrational

Predictably Irrational
by Dan Ariely
September 2023

Artwords

Artwords
by Beatriz M. Robles
November 2023

Fireproof Happiness: Extinguishing Anxiety & Igniting Hope

Fireproof Happiness: Extinguishing Anxiety & Igniting Hope
by Dr. Randy Ross
December 2023

Beyond the Golden Door: Seeing the American Dream Through an Immigrant's Eyes

Beyond the Golden Door: Seeing the American Dream Through an Immigrant's Eyes
by Ali Master
February 2024

2022 Philosophy Books of the Month

Emotional Intelligence At Work

Emotional Intelligence At Work
by Richard M Contino & Penelope J Holt
January 2022

Free Will, Do You Have It?

Free Will, Do You Have It?
by Albertus Kral
February 2022

My Enemy in Vietnam

My Enemy in Vietnam
by Billy Springer
March 2022

2X2 on the Ark

2X2 on the Ark
by Mary J Giuffra, PhD
April 2022

The Maestro Monologue

The Maestro Monologue
by Rob White
May 2022

What Makes America Great

What Makes America Great
by Bob Dowell
June 2022

The Truth Is Beyond Belief!

The Truth Is Beyond Belief!
by Jerry Durr
July 2022

Living in Color

Living in Color
by Mike Murphy
August 2022 (tentative)

The Not So Great American Novel

The Not So Great American Novel
by James E Doucette
September 2022

Mary Jane Whiteley Coggeshall, Hicksite Quaker, Iowa/National Suffragette And Her Speeches

Mary Jane Whiteley Coggeshall, Hicksite Quaker, Iowa/National Suffragette And Her Speeches
by John N. (Jake) Ferris
October 2022

In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All

In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All
by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
November 2022

The Smartest Person in the Room: The Root Cause and New Solution for Cybersecurity

The Smartest Person in the Room
by Christian Espinosa
December 2022

2021 Philosophy Books of the Month

The Biblical Clock: The Untold Secrets Linking the Universe and Humanity with God's Plan

The Biblical Clock
by Daniel Friedmann
March 2021

Wilderness Cry: A Scientific and Philosophical Approach to Understanding God and the Universe

Wilderness Cry
by Dr. Hilary L Hunt M.D.
April 2021

Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute: Tools To Spark Your Dream And Ignite Your Follow-Through

Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute
by Jeff Meyer
May 2021

Surviving the Business of Healthcare: Knowledge is Power

Surviving the Business of Healthcare
by Barbara Galutia Regis M.S. PA-C
June 2021

Winning the War on Cancer: The Epic Journey Towards a Natural Cure

Winning the War on Cancer
by Sylvie Beljanski
July 2021

Defining Moments of a Free Man from a Black Stream

Defining Moments of a Free Man from a Black Stream
by Dr Frank L Douglas
August 2021

If Life Stinks, Get Your Head Outta Your Buts

If Life Stinks, Get Your Head Outta Your Buts
by Mark L. Wdowiak
September 2021

The Preppers Medical Handbook

The Preppers Medical Handbook
by Dr. William W Forgey M.D.
October 2021

Natural Relief for Anxiety and Stress: A Practical Guide

Natural Relief for Anxiety and Stress
by Dr. Gustavo Kinrys, MD
November 2021

Dream For Peace: An Ambassador Memoir

Dream For Peace
by Dr. Ghoulem Berrah
December 2021