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Who is your favorite criminal from history?

Jesus (executed)
3
16%
Socrates (executed)
2
11%
William Wallace (executed)
0
No votes
John Brown (executed)
1
5%
Martin Luther King Jr. (assassinated)
1
5%
Mahatma Gandhi (assassinated)
3
16%
other (please specify in replies)
9
47%
 
Total votes: 19

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Post by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes »

Pattern-chaser wrote: March 4th, 2023, 10:29 am Gandhi?
Gandhi is included in the poll in the OP. :)
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Jesus was accused of being a criminal even though he was trying to save the world. I wish I could get full insight into this more.
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Obviously one common/almost universal base criterion will be that the criminal has broken a law which we consider to be wrong by doing something that we consider to be right.
Yes.

I nominate Solzhenitsyn.
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l don't have strong feelings about most in that list. Martin Luther King Jr. seems to have been a brave and good man who struggled to improve the lives of others. I don't know a lot about Gandhi but I understand that he was a hero of Indian independence and preached non-violence. So they'd both get a vote from me.

My own favourites? I quite like Robin Hood. Although he might be more mythical than historical, but I like his purported motive - rob from the rich to give to the poor.

And the Australian bushranger, Ned Kelly. He had a unfortunate childhood. And I like his nonchalance. On climbing the gallows he purportedly said," Oh, well. Such is life. And life is such. And after all it isn't much."

In modern times, maybe the great train-robber, Ronald Biggs. I like that he didn't injure anyone during his crime (as far as I know). And it was interesting how he managed to get lost and avoid arrest for so long.
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Oh, and I was ok with Jesus. I just don't like it that they made him into a god.
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I don't consider Jesus a criminal. Even though he was crucified and died on the cross, doesn't make him a criminal. Why do you, Scott, think that he was a criminal?
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Shirley Labzentis wrote: December 21st, 2023, 3:49 pm I don't consider Jesus a criminal. Even though he was crucified and died on the cross, doesn't make him a criminal. Why do you, Scott, think that he was a criminal?
Uummm... because he was convicted of a cime?
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I don't have an exact answer to this question because, after reading all the replies, I need to redefine the term "criminal." It's fascinating to see how everyone has their own definition, and all these definitions seem to complement each other. However, it's a challenging and eye-opening topic to discuss how the term "criminal" can automatically label a person as both good and bad.
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Leon Degrelle, the real-life inspiration for Tin-Tin. The Belgians decided it was expedient to declare him a traitor when events played out like events played out.
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