Where Should the Next War be Staged ?

[LuckyR]

The next war should be staged by good and accurate science on one side and the interests of Big Food and Big Pharma on the other in the interests of people suffering from a pandemic of insulin resistance, Type2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome and coronary heart disease.

You are correct that pleasing foodstuffs can be manufactured cheaply and their sugar content is a huge contributer to poor health. In this way it is not dissimilar to illegal drugs. But how do you combat suppliers when stupid consumers clamor for the stuff?

[Sculptor1]

The next war should be staged by good and accurate science on one side and the interests of Big Food and Big Pharma on the other in the interests of people suffering from a pandemic of insulin resistance, Type2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome and coronary heart disease.

You are correct that pleasing foodstuffs can be manufactured cheaply and their sugar content is a huge contributer to poor health. In this way it is not dissimilar to illegal drugs. But how do you combat suppliers when stupid consumers clamor for the stuff?

In the same way that we had a war on tobacco and now usage is way lower than it was.
In the early 1960 advertising used to include the brand that doctors recommend. And smoking was allowed in cinemas and restaurants.
Back then nearly half the population was chuffing away. now it is down to around 14% in the US, aiwht smoking bans in public places.
Tentatve efforts are ebing made to tax sugar. I hope this is the next big thing as it should be.

RIght now in the US the American Dietetics Assocaition and the Dietetics Registy are bizarrely part funded by Coca-Cola and other Food companies. THis also has to stop.

[Sy Borg]

It seems obvious that stage of the next world war will Ukraine in the west and Taiwan in the east. To some extent it echoes WWII. Instead of Germany, Russia is the main western antagonist and China is the eastern provocateur instead of Japan. The west is now lead by the US instead of England.

[UniversalAlien]

It seems obvious that stage of the next world war will Ukraine in the west and Taiwan in the east. To some extent it echoes WWII. Instead of Germany, Russia is the main western antagonist and China is the eastern provocateur instead of Japan. The west is now lead by the US instead of England.

Yes, you can see how stagey it all is - Almost as though it was being set up for entertainment and gamblers are betting on
the outcome

Vietnam was the first of the obviously staged wars. Remember we {USA} were there because of the 'Domino Theory' stating that if we let Vietnam fall all of Southeast Asia would fall to the Communists. So they killed off a good part of men my age in Vietnam and we can only guess at how many Vietnamese were killed. Then we lost and guess what? Southeast Asia didn't fall to the Communists after all

We all also staged a great act in Iraq on the fallacy that there were 'weapons of mass destruction' - Can only guess at how many Iraqis have been killed there - And don't forget the major production and debacle in Afghanistan.

So why shouldn't the Russians join the party and wipe out Ukraine?

See the Russians are just like us - War creators and gamblers

So let's not use the word genocide to describe what is really the new way of population control
- And as long as there are no abortions, who the hell cares

[Sy Borg]

And as long as there are no abortions, who the hell cares

It is a very strange fixation that a subset of westerners have, where the deaths of thousands of adults with relationships and families mean less than the death of one barely conscious foetus.

It's true that the disaster of the Iraq invasion has borne more toxic fruit, this time in giving Putin tacit permission to do the same.

Putin, though, is nowhere near as smart as his fanboys make out. Certainly no genius. A genius could not miss the fact that, if there is nuclear conflict, then there is global cooling, and no country is more vulnerable to that than Russia. It would quickly annihilate their agriculture. Any nation still relying on Russian grain and avoiding the sanctions should be considering other sources of grain for the future.

[Gregory A]

It seems obvious that stage of the next world war will Ukraine in the west and Taiwan in the east. To some extent it echoes WWII. Instead of Germany, Russia is the main western antagonist and China is the eastern provocateur instead of Japan. The west is now lead by the US instead of England.

Yes, you can see how stagey it all is - Almost as though it was being set up for entertainment and gamblers are betting on
the outcome

Vietnam was the first of the obviously staged wars. Remember we {USA} were there because of the 'Domino Theory' stating that if we let Vietnam fall all of Southeast Asia would fall to the Communists. So they killed off a good part of men my age in Vietnam and we can only guess at how many Vietnamese were killed. Then we lost and guess what? Southeast Asia didn't fall to the Communists after all

We all also staged a great act in Iraq on the fallacy that there were 'weapons of mass destruction' - Can only guess at how many Iraqis have been killed there - And don't forget the major production and debacle in Afghanistan.

So why shouldn't the Russians join the party and wipe out Ukraine?

See the Russians are just like us - War creators and gamblers

So let's not use the word genocide to describe what is really the new way of population control
- And as long as there are no abortions, who the hell cares

The Ukraine is wiping itself out, its selfish leader not accepting his mistake in courting NATO. And, China taking back what is theirs is not a war. And yes, Russia has got a good track record of not being involved directly in too many wars when compared to us. War in the past at least was an effective population control.

[UniversalAlien]

And as long as there are no abortions, who the hell cares

It is a very strange fixation that a subset of westerners have, where the deaths of thousands of adults with relationships and families mean less than the death of one barely conscious foetus.

It's true that the disaster of the Iraq invasion has borne more toxic fruit, this time in giving Putin tacit permission to do the same.

Putin, though, is nowhere near as smart as his fanboys make out. Certainly no genius. A genius could not miss the fact that, if there is nuclear conflict, then there is global cooling, and no country is more vulnerable to that than Russia. It would quickly annihilate their agriculture. Any nation still relying on Russian grain and avoiding the sanctions should be considering other sources of grain for the future.

The thing about Putin, like Stalin from the past, is he doesn't look crazy, and of course he has always had his supporters, say Communists from the old days and old school KGB who cling to old dreams of Russian glory.

The MAD {mutually assured destruction} scenario still stands - A full scale nuclear war, even a limited nuclear war where only a few nukes were actually detonated, might, probably would, be the tipping point that would turn the current global climate situation irreversible. That added with radiation in the atmosphere would probably wipe out most Human life within a few years.

What worries me is even though Putin, et al, doesn't look crazy - I think he might be. This war with Ukraine doesn't really make much sense - He has now turned 40 million Ukrainians, some of who might of been pro Russian, into a permanent enemy who will hate Russians for a long time to come. Only if the Russians themselves, some of which have been trying to dump Putin for years now, actually eliminate Putin and his cabal, will there be any chance for reconciliation between Russia and Ukraine.

[Sy Borg]

What worries me is even though Putin, et al, doesn't look crazy - I think he might be. This war with Ukraine doesn't really make much sense - He has now turned 40 million Ukrainians, some of who might of been pro Russian, into a permanent enemy who will hate Russians for a long time to come. Only if the Russians themselves, some of which have been trying to dump Putin for years now, actually eliminate Putin and his cabal, will there be any chance for reconciliation between Russia and Ukraine.

I'm not sure he's crazy, rather he receives only the news his minions are not too scared to give him, and he's pig-headed and not too bright. He has rat cunning but he clearly fails to think ahead beyond the immediate. It was obvious that his invasion would lead to sanctions, meaning that Russia would be entirely dependent on China to survive. Thus, in one mindless move, he has reduced Russia to China's client state. Basically, a large version of North Korea to China's north.

Putin reckons that anyone who tries to take Siberia will suffer but, in the long term, he is simply surrendering it. As global warming opens up new arable areas and makes parts of northern China unliveable. On the other hand, if he starts nuclear war and created global cooling, then Russia's agricultural industries will be amongst the first decimated.

Ironically, all Putin had to do was sit tight because Russia had the most to gain from climate change. With this single "genius" move Putin has somehow managed to wreck a nation that could have once again become an economic superpower - China's peer rather than its vassal.

When we consider Bush and Cheney's Republican nationalist-driven invasion of Iraq and Putin's nationalist-driven invasion of Ukraine, it is clear that invasions can no longer work. In the past, invaded nations would reliably surrender to save their lives and infrastructure, eg. France in WWII, but the Afghans and Iraqis have shown that a complete refusal to surrender makes invasions unviable. I think China has the right idea with its debt trap diplomacy, which appears to be a far more effective way of taking over other nations when the world is so strongly connected globally.

Now, if any nations wants to conduct invasions, chances are they will have to deal with foes that no longer pragmatically surrenders, who will cause many casualties and cost trillions to subdue, like the trillions the US wasted in the Middle East trying to tame relatively small populations who refused to give in. A new world, a new playbook, now adopted by Ukraine.