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I just wondered what the right wingers on the form thought about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt7EIuRUHV8

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Does this not count as incitement to violence?
IN the UK this would lead to an arrest. I'm guessing this violence is protected in some way in the US.
If the guy were black and exhorting people to hunt white people, would he now be in gaol regardless of constitutional protections?
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I am not a right winger, but this news also comes on the back of the Texas GOP seriously proposing secession in their party platform, denying the election results, and declaring homosexuality an “abnormal lifestyle choice.”

I want out of this country sometimes. It’s genuinely getting scary over here.
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Our Supreme Court has one brazenly stolen seat and another seat that was filled at hyper speed to create one of the most extremist courts in generations. They’re already stripping bodily autonomy when Roe vs. Wade goes. The particular “originalist” reasoning they’re using to strike down Roe is the same reasoning that marriage equality and right to privacy (so things like access to birth control) are built on.

All of this directly affects me (I’m a lesbian, hi, I would like to be married one day). People wondered why we cried when Trump won, because we knew what was coming.
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Astro Cat wrote: June 21st, 2022, 6:39 am Our Supreme Court has one brazenly stolen seat and another seat that was filled at hyper speed to create one of the most extremist courts in generations. They’re already stripping bodily autonomy when Roe vs. Wade goes. The particular “originalist” reasoning they’re using to strike down Roe is the same reasoning that marriage equality and right to privacy (so things like access to birth control) are built on.

All of this directly affects me (I’m a lesbian, hi, I would like to be married one day). People wondered why we cried when Trump won, because we knew what was coming.
The future looks grim for many people, not just LGBTQetc, but others, and not just in the US, but in the UK too.
So many people seem to be cheering it on, until the bigotry hits them personally.
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Sculptor1 wrote: June 21st, 2022, 7:53 am The future looks grim for many people, not just LGBTQetc, but others, and not just in the US, but in the UK too.
So many people seem to be cheering it on, until the bigotry hits them personally.
Yeah. I will wait to see what Gen Z does with baited breath. I'm a millennial and it seems like my fellow millennials don't vote enough.
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Astro Cat wrote: June 21st, 2022, 5:59 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: June 21st, 2022, 7:53 am The future looks grim for many people, not just LGBTQetc, but others, and not just in the US, but in the UK too.
So many people seem to be cheering it on, until the bigotry hits them personally.
Yeah. I will wait to see what Gen Z does with baited breath. I'm a millennial and it seems like my fellow millennials don't vote enough.
You share a problem common to most of us; who is actually worth voting for?
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Sculptor1 wrote: June 21st, 2022, 6:36 pm You share a problem common to most of us; who is actually worth voting for?
Yep. I am sick of voting in elections and thinking “well I’m not thrilled about this person but that one would be absolutely terrible,” so I have to just hold my nose. Seems like every election is just voting for mediocrity or worse just to stave off something truly awful.
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Astro Cat wrote: June 21st, 2022, 6:47 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: June 21st, 2022, 6:36 pm You share a problem common to most of us; who is actually worth voting for?
Yep. I am sick of voting in elections and thinking “well I’m not thrilled about this person but that one would be absolutely terrible,” so I have to just hold my nose. Seems like every election is just voting for mediocrity or worse just to stave off something truly awful.
Political activism is the only solution.
People have to go in and change the parties, or start new ones.
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Sculptor1 wrote: June 22nd, 2022, 5:43 am
Political activism is the only solution.
People have to go in and change the parties, or start new ones.
Yes, but again: silent gen and boomers are reaching their demographical end (I don't know how to say this politely, I don't say it gleefully, just speaking a generational fact), gen x and millennials don't vote much, and we still have to see the extent of what gen z is going to do.

None of it looks great.
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Astro Cat wrote: June 21st, 2022, 6:47 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: June 21st, 2022, 6:36 pm You share a problem common to most of us; who is actually worth voting for?
Yep. I am sick of voting in elections and thinking “well I’m not thrilled about this person but that one would be absolutely terrible,” so I have to just hold my nose. Seems like every election is just voting for mediocrity or worse just to stave off something truly awful.
This is used by many (not necessarily you personally) as a justification to not vote. Thus making the votes of rabid extremists more powerful. If the people who are going to be actually impacted by the overturning of Roe (young, lower socio-economic women) actually voted for their own interest (instead of not voting at all), this entire issue would not be happening.
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LuckyR wrote: June 23rd, 2022, 2:03 am This is used by many (not necessarily you personally) as a justification to not vote. Thus making the votes of rabid extremists more powerful. If the people who are going to be actually impacted by the overturning of Roe (young, lower socio-economic women) actually voted for their own interest (instead of not voting at all), this entire issue would not be happening.
Yes, and I don't mean to contribute to that. I lament that it has some truth to it, though. I encourage as many as I can to vote, I am politically active in my area. I am bitter and fatigued because it just doesn't seem like it's enough.

Soon a corpse will have more bodily autonomy than I do. Then, with this SCOTUS (even if Roberts tries to hold them back), I may never be able to marry my girlfriend either. And I'm mad about it, I'm sad about it, I will continue to act and try to help people get out to do the thing but UGH, am I tired.
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(I may have said this before somewhere, but for readers' benefit: SCOTUS's reasoning in the leaked opinion striking down Roe v Wade attacks the same premises holding up marriage equality, among other things; they could easily target it next and the GOP is already signaling their willingness to do so. See the Texas GOP party platform for instance)
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Astro Cat wrote: June 22nd, 2022, 10:20 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: June 22nd, 2022, 5:43 am
Political activism is the only solution.
People have to go in and change the parties, or start new ones.
Yes, but again: silent gen and boomers are reaching their demographical end (I don't know how to say this politely, I don't say it gleefully, just speaking a generational fact), gen x and millennials don't vote much, and we still have to see the extent of what gen z is going to do.

None of it looks great.
I'm not sure exactly when gen x starts and the other categories finish.
And I do not care.
This is just another way to divide people so they can be controlled. You show a tendency to lower your expectation of some of these categories because of prejudging them - that is how racism and prejudice works.
Any one of any age can be politically active, and there is a great opportunity with Social media, not available to us before. Yet 120 years ago we saw the rise of the left to challenge the established powers. This can happen again, and is,
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Astro Cat wrote: June 23rd, 2022, 2:33 am (I may have said this before somewhere, but for readers' benefit: SCOTUS's reasoning in the leaked opinion striking down Roe v Wade attacks the same premises holding up marriage equality, among other things; they could easily target it next and the GOP is already signaling their willingness to do so. See the Texas GOP party platform for instance)
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