Trumpism is not logical

[Sculptor1]

The only thing that could be called Trumpism is a tendency to say the first thing that comes into your head that you think makes you look good regardless or whether or not it is true.
Boris Johnson does it more effectively, and with a smile. But he has gone down.
Why Trump seems to be still standing is beyond my imagination. Is the US so weak minded?

I believe gullible is the word you're looking for.

Yes, but hope is on the horizon?

I wouldn't bet on increased public savvy in the Post Truth era.

The popular vote never accepted Trump.
And it never will.
It is highly unlikely that he will ever be President again.

[3017Metaphysician]

The only thing that could be called Trumpism is a tendency to say the first thing that comes into your head that you think makes you look good regardless or whether or not it is true.
Boris Johnson does it more effectively, and with a smile. But he has gone down.
Why Trump seems to be still standing is beyond my imagination. Is the US so weak minded?

I believe gullible is the word you're looking for.

Yes, but hope is on the horizon?

I wouldn't bet on increased public savvy in the Post Truth era.

Now there's a positive attitude! C'mon there Lucky!! Put out the good vibes, you never know what may come back. On the other hand, maybe it's not all that complicated. Maybe here in America, it will work itself out in the end. But like the song Cult of Personality, maybe it's only education itself that can somehow set him free. On the other hand, someone said that the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

I sell the things you need to be
I'm the smiling face on your TV
Oh, I'm the cult of personality
I exploit you, still you love me
I tell you one and one makes three
Oh, I'm the cult of personality

Neon lights, a Nobel Prize
When a mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You won't have to follow me
Only you can set me free...

[3017Metaphysician]

[AverageBozo]

I believe gullible is the word you're looking for.

Yes, but hope is on the horizon?

I wouldn't bet on increased public savvy in the Post Truth era.

Now there's a positive attitude! C'mon there Lucky!! Put out the good vibes, you never know what may come back. On the other hand, maybe it's not all that complicated. Maybe here in America, it will work itself out in the end. But like the song Cult of Personality, maybe it's only education itself that can somehow set him free. On the other hand, someone said that the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

I agree with Lucky. As American public education is dumbed down, there will be fewer individuals with the ability to think critically, and accordingly more individuals who can be duped.

[Sculptor1]

Yes, but hope is on the horizon?

I wouldn't bet on increased public savvy in the Post Truth era.

Now there's a positive attitude! C'mon there Lucky!! Put out the good vibes, you never know what may come back. On the other hand, maybe it's not all that complicated. Maybe here in America, it will work itself out in the end. But like the song Cult of Personality, maybe it's only education itself that can somehow set him free. On the other hand, someone said that the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

I agree with Lucky. As American public education is dumbed down, there will be fewer individuals with the ability to think critically, and accordingly more individuals who can be duped.

All political movements that came out of the 19thC had very poor education systems with low levels of critical thinking.
My feeling is that natural intelligence can result in critical thinking despite education, though education can enhance the ability.
The bigger worry I have, especially about Americans ,is the shockingly low level of nutrition. The massive rise in obesity , T2Diabetes, NAFLD, and autoimmune diseases can be levelled at the American obsession with processed food and absurdly high levels of sugar based foods, all of which are low in micronutrients and vitamins.
This "metabolic syndrome" effects the working of the brain and basic thinking, encouraging smaller sound bites, that satisfy the pleasure centres of the brain, and encourage reactive rather than contemplative and critical thinking.

[3017Metaphysician]

Yes, but hope is on the horizon?

I wouldn't bet on increased public savvy in the Post Truth era.

Now there's a positive attitude! C'mon there Lucky!! Put out the good vibes, you never know what may come back. On the other hand, maybe it's not all that complicated. Maybe here in America, it will work itself out in the end. But like the song Cult of Personality, maybe it's only education itself that can somehow set him free. On the other hand, someone said that the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

I agree with Lucky. As American public education is dumbed down, there will be fewer individuals with the ability to think critically, and accordingly more individuals who can be duped.

Thank you AB! I will let your points simmer a bit. I have perhaps a slightly simplier solution that is existential in nature, but as I say, your point needs to stand alone.

FYI- we are just learning the justice department is putting the ball in Trump's court. By 3pm tommorow, they are going to decide whether to release parts of the search warrant. Some say they are calling his bluff since he's making things up again (witch hunt) as to why they searched his pad.

Let's take bets:

1. Will Trump's team want it released
2. How much will Trump want the public to see
3. Will his team only want certain documents revealed
4. And if it's only a certain document, or documents, then we're back to him hiding things again that have the potential of making him look bad

It's a tough call. I'm inclined to think his team will make up an excuse not to release it all because it will be self incriminating hence calling his bluff. Remember, his cult of personality' is to make you believe he's a poor victim and that it's just another political witch hunt. Real tough guy huh. Like him pleading the Fifth this week, we have a coward who's all part of the swamp he said he would drain.

I still say the walls are closing in now. Most of us knew all that after he lost the election of course. The thug is taking on water.

[LuckyR]

I wouldn't bet on increased public savvy in the Post Truth era.

Now there's a positive attitude! C'mon there Lucky!! Put out the good vibes, you never know what may come back. On the other hand, maybe it's not all that complicated. Maybe here in America, it will work itself out in the end. But like the song Cult of Personality, maybe it's only education itself that can somehow set him free. On the other hand, someone said that the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

I agree with Lucky. As American public education is dumbed down, there will be fewer individuals with the ability to think critically, and accordingly more individuals who can be duped.

All political movements that came out of the 19thC had very poor education systems with low levels of critical thinking.
My feeling is that natural intelligence can result in critical thinking despite education, though education can enhance the ability.
The bigger worry I have, especially about Americans ,is the shockingly low level of nutrition. The massive rise in obesity , T2Diabetes, NAFLD, and autoimmune diseases can be levelled at the American obsession with processed food and absurdly high levels of sugar based foods, all of which are low in micronutrients and vitamins.
This "metabolic syndrome" effects the working of the brain and basic thinking, encouraging smaller sound bites, that satisfy the pleasure centres of the brain, and encourage reactive rather than contemplative and critical thinking.

All true, but you're not reporting on the most important factor, namely that in the Modern era, educational level is specifically, selected against genetically.

[LuckyR]

I believe gullible is the word you're looking for.

Yes, but hope is on the horizon?

I wouldn't bet on increased public savvy in the Post Truth era.

The popular vote never accepted Trump.
And it never will.
It is highly unlikely that he will ever be President again.

Quite true that his base plus antiDemocrats is <50% of voters. However it is close enough to 51% that it all comes down to turnout.

[Ecurb]

All political movements that came out of the 19thC had very poor education systems with low levels of critical thinking.
My feeling is that natural intelligence can result in critical thinking despite education, though education can enhance the ability.
The bigger worry I have, especially about Americans ,is the shockingly low level of nutrition. The massive rise in obesity , T2Diabetes, NAFLD, and autoimmune diseases can be levelled at the American obsession with processed food and absurdly high levels of sugar based foods, all of which are low in micronutrients and vitamins.
This "metabolic syndrome" effects the working of the brain and basic thinking, encouraging smaller sound bites, that satisfy the pleasure centres of the brain, and encourage reactive rather than contemplative and critical thinking.

The U.K is the fattest country in Europe, with an obesity rate of about 27% (the U.S. is about 35%).

The car culture in the U.S. is one of the leading causes, I think. I've done no research (other than traveling about on business), and it seems to me that cities like New York (where people walk more) have fewer fat people. I think obesity rates in Europe are rising more quickly than those in the U.S (although we're so fat already that it's more difficult to become fatter).

[Sculptor1]

Now there's a positive attitude! C'mon there Lucky!! Put out the good vibes, you never know what may come back. On the other hand, maybe it's not all that complicated. Maybe here in America, it will work itself out in the end. But like the song Cult of Personality, maybe it's only education itself that can somehow set him free. On the other hand, someone said that the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

I agree with Lucky. As American public education is dumbed down, there will be fewer individuals with the ability to think critically, and accordingly more individuals who can be duped.

All political movements that came out of the 19thC had very poor education systems with low levels of critical thinking.
My feeling is that natural intelligence can result in critical thinking despite education, though education can enhance the ability.
The bigger worry I have, especially about Americans ,is the shockingly low level of nutrition. The massive rise in obesity , T2Diabetes, NAFLD, and autoimmune diseases can be levelled at the American obsession with processed food and absurdly high levels of sugar based foods, all of which are low in micronutrients and vitamins.
This "metabolic syndrome" effects the working of the brain and basic thinking, encouraging smaller sound bites, that satisfy the pleasure centres of the brain, and encourage reactive rather than contemplative and critical thinking.

All true, but you're not reporting on the most important factor, namely that in the Modern era, educational level is specifically, selected against genetically.

Oh - you might have to show that.

[Sculptor1]

All political movements that came out of the 19thC had very poor education systems with low levels of critical thinking.
My feeling is that natural intelligence can result in critical thinking despite education, though education can enhance the ability.
The bigger worry I have, especially about Americans ,is the shockingly low level of nutrition. The massive rise in obesity , T2Diabetes, NAFLD, and autoimmune diseases can be levelled at the American obsession with processed food and absurdly high levels of sugar based foods, all of which are low in micronutrients and vitamins.
This "metabolic syndrome" effects the working of the brain and basic thinking, encouraging smaller sound bites, that satisfy the pleasure centres of the brain, and encourage reactive rather than contemplative and critical thinking.

The U.K is the fattest country in Europe, with an obesity rate of about 27% (the U.S. is about 35%).

The car culture in the U.S. is one of the leading causes, I think. I've done no research (other than traveling about on business), and it seems to me that cities like New York (where people walk more) have fewer fat people. I think obesity rates in Europe are rising more quickly than those in the U.S (although we're so fat already that it's more difficult to become fatter).

"The percentage of New York State adults who have overweight or obesity increased from 42% in 1997 to 63.2% in 2019. The percentage of New York State adults who have obesity increased from 16% in 1997 to 27.1% in 2019. Obesity among children and adolescents has tripled over the past three decades."
Walking has little to do with it.

The fattest country in Europe is (paradoxically ) Hungary, not UK.

https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/8cd ... 20the%20EU.

[Sculptor1]

All political movements that came out of the 19thC had very poor education systems with low levels of critical thinking.
My feeling is that natural intelligence can result in critical thinking despite education, though education can enhance the ability.
The bigger worry I have, especially about Americans ,is the shockingly low level of nutrition. The massive rise in obesity , T2Diabetes, NAFLD, and autoimmune diseases can be levelled at the American obsession with processed food and absurdly high levels of sugar based foods, all of which are low in micronutrients and vitamins.
This "metabolic syndrome" effects the working of the brain and basic thinking, encouraging smaller sound bites, that satisfy the pleasure centres of the brain, and encourage reactive rather than contemplative and critical thinking.

The U.K is the fattest country in Europe, with an obesity rate of about 27% (the U.S. is about 35%).

The car culture in the U.S. is one of the leading causes, I think. I've done no research (other than traveling about on business), and it seems to me that cities like New York (where people walk more) have fewer fat people. I think obesity rates in Europe are rising more quickly than those in the U.S (although we're so fat already that it's more difficult to become fatter).

My point was more to do with bad nutrition rather than obesity.
You can be fat and fit, and thin and unfit; but I agree that Obesity is a sign of bad eating, its not necessarily the cause of metabolic syndrome but an indicator of it.
You might find Robert Lustig informative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpNU72dny2s&t=824s

[Ecurb]

"The percentage of New York State adults who have overweight or obesity increased from 42% in 1997 to 63.2% in 2019. The percentage of New York State adults who have obesity increased from 16% in 1997 to 27.1% in 2019. Obesity among children and adolescents has tripled over the past three decades."
Walking has little to do with it.

The fattest country in Europe is (paradoxically ) Hungary, not UK.

https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/8cd ... 20the%20EU.

New York is apparently the 7th least obese state. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... e-by-state

Colorado is the least obese (unsurprisingly it attracts an athletic population), and the most obese are all in the South. My theory about car culture is called into question because California is the 4th least obese (although there are other factors).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... mass_index

This list shows Hungary as less obese than the U.K. -- but Ireland and Andorra are fatter. Obviously, there are different measurements of and standards for obesity.

[chewybrian]

in the Modern era, educational level is specifically, selected against genetically.

Oh - you might have to show that.

That's an easy one. Education wasn't just negatively related to births in this study, but the strongest negation correlation.

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.c ... /s12889-02

Results

In decreasing order of strength, fertility (TFR) correlates negatively with education, CPR, and GDP per capita, and positively with religiosity.

[chewybrian]

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.c ... 020-8331-7

^Sorry, the last part of the address was cut off.