Executing Child Rapists

[mike]

Sounds messy! tally hoe?

[Samhains]

Sounds messy! tally hoe?

Think about it.
There on your front door step is a fourty year old man, wanting to take your 16 year old daughter out..have sex with her and fill her head with all his bull sh*t that HE wants HER to belive about him and life...
Now your brain was removed shall we say and you let this happen and now the 16 year old is pregnant with the 40 year olds baby...by the time this 'man' is 60 the child will be 20, lets hope he don't smoke or he will be dead by 55..and the child will be left with no father and the 16 year old, who had to quit school and raise this little bastard now does not have an education at 36 years old, can you say WELFARE..

The most puzzling part is why would a 40 year old man want to have sex with a "TEENAGER" ..young tight..ya ya OK I GET IT....however does that not sound a little like "Child molestation"....as teenagers are still children, living at home with mummy and daddy..

teenagers are not disposable sex toys.
(you had you chance with them when your where 16)...

Would I have sex with a 16 year old, at 35 now? NO not comfortably anyways. Is it legal, I think so, matter of fact I think 14 years old in canada is the legal age for concent, but I belive there is a claws in it, something about a 5 or 2 year difference only, till she/he is 16 or 18...so I think for any man, who wants to have sex with teenagers, should for all reasons stick to 18 and 19 year olds...at lest that way you know you have some "Legal" defence is anyones dad wants to run you down with a shovel.

[anarchyisbliss]

Sounds messy! tally hoe?

Think about it.
There on your front door step is a fourty year old man, wanting to take your 16 year old daughter out..have sex with her and fill her head with all his bull **** that HE wants HER to belive about him and life...
Now your brain was removed shall we say and you let this happen and now the 16 year old is pregnant with the 40 year olds baby...by the time this 'man' is 60 the child will be 20, lets hope he don't smoke or he will be dead by 55..and the child will be left with no father and the 16 year old, who had to quit school and raise this little bastard now does not have an education at 36 years old, can you say WELFARE..

The most puzzling part is why would a 40 year old man want to have sex with a "TEENAGER" ..young tight..ya ya OK I GET IT....however does that not sound a little like "Child molestation"....as teenagers are still children, living at home with mummy and daddy..

teenagers are not disposable sex toys.
(you had you chance with them when your where 16)...

Would I have sex with a 16 year old, at 35 now? NO not comfortably anyways. Is it legal, I think so, matter of fact I think 14 years old in canada is the legal age for concent, but I belive there is a claws in it, something about a 5 or 2 year difference only, till she/he is 16 or 18...so I think for any man, who wants to have sex with teenagers, should for all reasons stick to 18 and 19 year olds...at lest that way you know you have some "Legal" defence is anyones dad wants to run you down with a shovel.

You said a lot of convincing things, but you have to remember that the difference in age between males and females during sex is so close, but also so rare. It mostly came from our puritanical background. Also remember than Mary married Joseph when she was only fourteen. Although she didn't have sex with im probably until she was about eighteen if folklore gives us anything. I could see why a 40 year old man would want a sixteen year old....16 year old girls are hot they are experiencing new things with their bodies and more willing to give it up than other forty year old women who are depressed about their body image and their sagging breasts. I don't think there is anything wrong, both people would be satisfying a sexual fantasy. The older man gets to experience a younger girl, while the younger girl gets the thrill of experiencing an older man. Tit for tat if your mature enough for that.

[mike]

I'm an unwitting participant, I only read the first thingy. I just meant the "exacuting child rapists" thing's a hilarious title. Kudos!

[mike]

16 year old girls?

[anarchyisbliss]

16 year old girls?

16 year old girls? What?.......

[anarchyisbliss]

I think if they are going to execute child rapists they should execute all of us because we all commit sins and crimes and were never going to change our ways so we might as well as just execute each other.

[mike]

take a drink of the magic potion mass suicide

[Dreamshift]

We've all agreed to live with certian expectations to security. One of those securities is our children's lives: mental, physical and emotional. Rape affects all three of these things and seriously changes the child for worse. It takes a special kind of person to do this to a child. If we all want a security, and we all agree that to prevent the loss of that security we must sacrifice a minority that would unjustly remove that, then we would have to remove them. In the case of people who are inable to change their behavior to keep themsleves safely within the confines of our moral requirements, then they sould be put down, just like you would a vicous dog. If you cannot be rehablitated, than you shall be removed. This should be done with the upmost care though, for the inocent should not be removed in this way.

[anarchyisbliss]

It takes a special kind of person to do this to a child.

Yes but these people can be changed. They are not different from drug addicts or alcoholics. People don't seem to realize that most of the time all these people need is someone to talk to because all of their lives they have been ignored or they have been taught to suffocate their feelings. Should we execute an alcoholic because she goes to the bar every night and makes a ruckus? No we should talk to and counsel them and help them with their problem if they choose to ask for our help. Child rapists are not a lost cause.

In the case of people who are inable to change their behavior to keep themsleves safely within the confines of our moral requirements, then they sould be put down, just like you would a vicous dog.

On a tangent, anyone who would have the heart to put down a dog is, in my opinion anyway, heartless. Back onto the subject, unless we are talking about baby/toddler rape, there is really nothing wrong with an older person having a sexual relationship with a prepubescent person - it's historical! The Ancient Greeks ( you know the society that our governmental system was modeled around ) had sexual relationships with young boys and girls all the time, and it was perfectly acceptable, you just must remember we were founded by Puritans...we all know what that implies. Also, in the middle East, even today older men are marrying young women at the ages of eleven and twelve. Mother Mary herself was most likely married at the age of thirteen or fourteen and probably had Jesus of Nazareth at the age of sixteen, and he is probably the most influential religious figure on the planet today and he is the product of what many would consider to be molestation or rape. Lastly, the icing on the cake is that in Romania, the age of consent is twelve years old, and in Israel it's twelve or thirteen years old depending on whether you are a male or female, and in the United States before the State government stepped in, people were getting married around thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen years old. So it's not that there is a problem with older people having sexual relationships with younger people, it is just that our society has an unwarranted stigma against it.

If you cannot be rehablitated, than you shall be removed.

Anyone can be rehabilitated because, as any neurologist will tell you, the brain is like plastic- - it can be molded and remodeled in any stage of life,. It is never too late to change, and it certainly is not too late to change the mind of a child rapist assuming s/he wants to have his or her mind changed.

[pjkeeley]

So it's not that there is a problem with older people having sexual relationships with younger people, it is just that our society has an unwarranted stigma against it.

I don't think it's an unwarranted stigma at all. And I don't think just because it was normal or acceptable at other times in history that it should be now. Remember also that in Ancient Greece slavery was also perfectly accepted and normal.

Children are not capable of understanding and making informed descisions about sex. This means that they are prone to manipulation from older people. The problem isn't that children are incapable of giving consent, it's that their consent can easily be attained by manipulation, is uninformed and can work against the child's own interests. Children who have sex with older people, even if it's not strictly rape, can be permanently affected psychologically and can wind up with depression and relationship issues for the rest of their lives. Not to mention the physical abuse that often accompanies it and the pain that is caused by the fact that a child's genitals are not fully developed.

The stigma exists for a reason. I think you are seriously misguided if you think adults should be allowed to have sex with pre-pubescent boys and girls.

[Dreamshift]

I'll back up and defend myself about the euthinasia: no I don't mean people or dogs that can be reconditioned to exist peacefully in society, I mean people who are 100% incapable of doing so. Those who are labeled as psychopaths, or kill without feeling, have been tested for gentetic anomolies. They have an extra X Chromoasome that causes them to enjoy or lust to kill living things. These people are not likely to be changed easily, likely only heavy medication would alter a person under this behaviural change that is inflicted by their own genetics. They are literally programed to kill the way they do, and so it would be impossble to do so. Rape, no matter what the age, is a horrid thing. Its as bad as murder because of the trauma it causes. To a Child, it is even worse because they aren't as well equiped to deal with the trauma as adults, ergo why it should be considered especially henous. It takes a sick person to rape anyone, an even more sick person to do it to a child. Certianly, they could be rehabilitated, but damn I wouldn't want those genes in the pool (I don't by that statement to say that we should purge them from the gentic pool, i'd be a nazi, but that to continue to produce people capable of that is frightening.) But beyond the fact that its appaling, a just punishment should be given for that, because the child rapist likely destoryed whatever healthy life that child could have, likiwise should be done to them. Maybe its barbaric, eye for an eye, but it should be known that it won't be tollerated to rape a child, let alone any rape. You take more than sex from a person, you take their dignity and their sense of security. You destroy a person when you rape them. IF the person could be rehabliltated, then I guess you could reintroduce them into society under supervision. Should a licensed psychologist say the subject isn't capable of rentering society without commiting the crime agian, then it is in the best interest of us all to remove them from it perminatly. Am I sacrificing the individual's rights? as much as they sacrificed the person they raped.

Children are not ready to have sex, its genetic. We are meant to mature and then become healthy reproducers. A pre-pubecent girl is not ready for this burden, and should not be given it by a person more capable of convincing them so. The mental playground isn't equal when its a child to an adult, the adult knows the tricks the child hasn't been able to learn yet and defend agianst. Yes the Greeks did, the Spartans especially. They were powerful, and homosexual--but they also threw out the weak, enslaved thousands, and muderdered more in tribal wars. We shouldn't just say that because the fathers of our ideals of government did it, so should we. No person in this world is perfect, nor are they all good or bad, we should be picky with what we decide to emulate from history--lest we decide to reenter slavery, reject universal sufrage, and let the powerful rule the weak.

[anarchyisbliss]

I don't think it's an unwarranted stigma at all. And I don't think just because it was normal or acceptable at other times in history that it should be now. Remember also that in Ancient Greece slavery was also perfectly accepted and normal.

Good point...and I'm not saying that our society should mirror Greek society but that we should say hey look maybe this isn't as wrong as we think it is, and slavery in Ancient Greece was more like underpaid physical labor than anything, not so much like the the slavery we had in the United States, but still a good point.

Children are not capable of understanding and making informed descisions about sex.

Thats a generalization. Many people assume that children are incapable of making this decisions, and just for the record in this thread when I say children having sex with adults the children I speak of are between 11-15ish not like four or five. But as I was saying many people assume that children are incapable of making decisions on their own without understanding the consequences, but from my own personal experience I can remember being eleven and knowing not to let the creepy man in the park put his hands down my pants, or to run away when the janitor was looking at me changing in the locker room. These are just hypothetical allusions not real experiences by the way.

The problem isn't that children are incapable of giving consent, it's that their consent can easily be attained by manipulation, is uninformed and can work against the child's own interests.

That can happen to anyone at any age it all depends on your own emotional strength and your ability to deffer that manipulation. An thirty year old can be sexually manipulated in order to keep their job, or a high order person in a company may require you to perform sexual acts in order to move on in your career . These things happen all the time.

Children who have sex with older people, even if it's not strictly rape, can be permanently affected psychologically and can wind up with depression and relationship issues for the rest of their lives.

Sex affects people psychologically ate any age even 100. The problem is that society tells us that it is wrong to have sex at a young age and that if you do something is wrong with you, that is where the problems arise.

Not to mention the physical abuse that often accompanies it and the pain that is caused by the fact that a child's genitals are not fully developed.

I'm not necessarily talking about penetration, but if children are interested in seeing an older man/woman's genitals and seeing what they do...thats just curiosity.

The stigma exists for a reason. I think you are seriously misguided if you think adults should be allowed to have sex with pre-pubescent boys and girls.

Yes there is a reason but its relative not right. I don't think in anyway that adults should have sex with prepubescent children, but I don't think that the people who do should be executed which is what this whole thing is about. If a fourteen year old boy has a crush on the thirty year old science teacher and wants to learn a little female anatomy I don't see a problem with it. And it certainly shouldn't be a concern of the state executioners.

[pjkeeley]

I don't think they should be executed either so on that point we agree.

[anarchyisbliss]

Those who are labeled as psychopaths, or kill without feeling, have been tested for gentetic anomolies. They have an extra X Chromoasome that causes them to enjoy or lust to kill living things.

In that case maybe evolution is taking its course and allowing this one human being to kill blindly and with no remorse in order o survive better, after all human populations are pushing us to the fringes of our geographic boundaries.

To a Child, it is even worse because they aren't as well equiped to deal with the trauma as adults, ergo why it should be considered especially henous.

I disagree, humans of any age will differ on their abilities to deal with traumatic events.

But beyond the fact that its appaling, a just punishment should be given for that, because the child rapist likely destoryed whatever healthy life that child could have, likiwise should be done to them.

The following people have admitted to being raped, and now they are success stories:

Oprah Winfrey
Maya Angelou
Kelli McGillis
Terry Hatcher
Debra Byrne
Christina Aguilera
Janice Dickinson
Missy Elliot
Tori Amos
Darren Hayse
Virginia Woolf ( yes she committed suicide, but her poetry was amazing)
Corey Feldman
Corey Haim
Kobe Bryant
Daniel Ortega
Run from Run DMC
Mike Tyson

then it is in the best interest of us all to remove them from it perminatly. Am I sacrificing the individual's rights? as much as they sacrificed the person they raped.

Life is about me, not about we.