You are correct that the subject contains issues of competing interests. However such a situation is not a paradox, and while can be a dilemma, usually isn't. That is, we routinely make decisions that revolve around competing interests. Basically, one set of interests are deemed to be greater than the other.Maxreview wrote: ↑February 17th, 2023, 12:23 pm I fell this issue is entirely circumstantial. It's a moral dilemma and paradox, too. If the fetus is threatening the life of the mother, then it may be wise to terminate the pregnancy. Sometimes, the parents may not just be ready to have the baby, so I feel its their call to make and no one should judge them for doing what they think is best for themselves. But also, if we view it from the baby's view, it's murder in some way. Sometimes, raising the child in-vitro, giving it to a surrogate, or deciding to keep it to give it for adoption may be a nice idea where applicable.
The March 2023 Philosophy Book of the Month is Rediscovering the Wisdom of Human Nature: How Civilization Destroys Happiness by Chet Shupe.
Abortion - Not as diametrically divisive as often thought?
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Scottie wrote: ↑January 29th, 2012, 1:25 am The problem I have is that the position to allow abortion does not affect the right to choose for the people who choose not to abort. No one is for forcing anyone to have an abortion against their will.
The position which denies abortion does affect the right to choose for those who choose to abort. Some one IS attempting to force that person to bring the pregnancy to term.
No one has proven that a fetus has rights independently of the mother. I don't think we get to appeal to the big man in the sky as the basis for law.
But the issue is that people abuse privileges that they're given and this is no exception to the rule and it's unfortunate that the majority of people that get abortions have had more than one in fact a very high percentage of them have had three or four as if they're using it as a contraceptive not a last resort and that is inhumane from a different angle.
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Commenting on extreme examples does not logically support making it illegal for everyone.MAYA EL wrote: ↑March 8th, 2023, 10:52 pmScottie wrote: ↑January 29th, 2012, 1:25 am The problem I have is that the position to allow abortion does not affect the right to choose for the people who choose not to abort. No one is for forcing anyone to have an abortion against their will.
The position which denies abortion does affect the right to choose for those who choose to abort. Some one IS attempting to force that person to bring the pregnancy to term.
No one has proven that a fetus has rights independently of the mother. I don't think we get to appeal to the big man in the sky as the basis for law.
But the issue is that people abuse privileges that they're given and this is no exception to the rule and it's unfortunate that the majority of people that get abortions have had more than one in fact a very high percentage of them have had three or four as if they're using it as a contraceptive not a last resort and that is inhumane from a different angle.
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It better justifies taking away a privilege that was unwisely GIVEN to them yesLuckyR wrote: ↑March 9th, 2023, 12:36 pmCommenting on extreme examples does not logically support making it illegal for everyone.MAYA EL wrote: ↑March 8th, 2023, 10:52 pmScottie wrote: ↑January 29th, 2012, 1:25 am The problem I have is that the position to allow abortion does not affect the right to choose for the people who choose not to abort. No one is for forcing anyone to have an abortion against their will.
The position which denies abortion does affect the right to choose for those who choose to abort. Some one IS attempting to force that person to bring the pregnancy to term.
No one has proven that a fetus has rights independently of the mother. I don't think we get to appeal to the big man in the sky as the basis for law.
But the issue is that people abuse privileges that they're given and this is no exception to the rule and it's unfortunate that the majority of people that get abortions have had more than one in fact a very high percentage of them have had three or four as if they're using it as a contraceptive not a last resort and that is inhumane from a different angle.
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"better"? Better than what? It's easy to argue against nonarguments.MAYA EL wrote: ↑March 26th, 2023, 1:29 pmIt better justifies taking away a privilege that was unwisely GIVEN to them yesLuckyR wrote: ↑March 9th, 2023, 12:36 pmCommenting on extreme examples does not logically support making it illegal for everyone.MAYA EL wrote: ↑March 8th, 2023, 10:52 pmScottie wrote: ↑January 29th, 2012, 1:25 am The problem I have is that the position to allow abortion does not affect the right to choose for the people who choose not to abort. No one is for forcing anyone to have an abortion against their will.
The position which denies abortion does affect the right to choose for those who choose to abort. Some one IS attempting to force that person to bring the pregnancy to term.
No one has proven that a fetus has rights independently of the mother. I don't think we get to appeal to the big man in the sky as the basis for law.
But the issue is that people abuse privileges that they're given and this is no exception to the rule and it's unfortunate that the majority of people that get abortions have had more than one in fact a very high percentage of them have had three or four as if they're using it as a contraceptive not a last resort and that is inhumane from a different angle.
2023 Philosophy Books of the Month

Mark Victor Hansen, Relentless: Wisdom Behind the Incomparable Chicken Soup for the Soul
by Mitzi Perdue
February 2023