Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑August 11th, 2022, 8:09 am
Joshua10 wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 10:57 am
Awareness/Unawareness is separate from consciousness and thoughts.
I imagine that this will simply end up as a discussion of what "aware" means, but I'm interested anyway. So, what is the difference between consciousness
? These two words are often used as synonyms, in some discussions.
Yes It is also my understanding that present thinking is that awareness and consciousness are the same thing.
Trying to define them is like trying to define the difference between the colour red in relation to the colour green.Just because you cannot define red or green doesn’t mean that the conclusion has to be that there is no difference. Experience suggests that there is a difference.
I suggest therefore that the “I am” is either aware or unaware of consciousness.So how can the “I am” be aware or unaware of consciousness?
My view is that there are 2 distinct types of consciousness that the “I am” experiences whilst in the “Awake” state.As I have said previously, these are, the “in the moment” and “out of the moment” consciousness states.
It is my view that whether we like it or no or agree with it or not we “toggle between these 2 consciousness states all the time whilst in the “Awake” state.It is also my view that we are either aware or unaware of this.
If the “I am” is aware of this “toggling” effect of consciousness then it can introduce control over it.If the “I am” is not aware of this “toggling” effect of consciousness then it cannot introduce control over it.
The “I am” can introduce control over the consciousness states INDEPENDENTLY of thoughts whether this be inward or outward type thoughts.
As also mentioned previously the “I am” can also become aware having previously been unaware that it ENGAGES with incoming autopilot thoughts whereas it does not ENGAGE with outward manual thoughts.
If the “I am” ENGAGES with incoming autopilot thoughts then the “I am” experiences the “out of the moment” consciousness state.