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#383052
Scott wrote: April 25th, 2021, 11:25 pm Humans may not even exist, let alone human ears and human eyes.
Yes, OK, I unconditionally agree, but I thought the Objective Reality stuff could be avoided here. I actually love to discuss the illusory nonsense of Objectivism, but I thought this topic would not benefit from its introduction. Nevertheless, in response to your text, above: I assert that Objective Reality exists and that I am all or part of it. This is the only Objective Knowledge that a human can knowingly possess.

But I really think we should return to perception and projection, as your topic title requests. 😉
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#383128
Understood, reality does exist. I say in conclusion it has to, only because cause it’s impossible to know of
nonexistence. The perception is the projection from the Sun/light/waves/form all. The perspective is from your eyes/ears/body/waves that draw in the sun/light/waves. This is best understood by any video camera, as a result we are inside of it.
#383425
The apparent reality is determined by biological consciousness because of the given constitution of said biology, that does not mean that what you perceive is actually what is. There is a difference between apparent reality and ultimate reality, ultimate reality is a place of no things.
#444341
Looking back on this topic, I am also reminded of these quotes from my book, In It Together:

In It Together (page 99) wrote:It takes two to tango, and for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. When you fight the primitive flesh, it fights back.
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In It Together (page 120) wrote:Spiritual imprisonment or spiritual slavery is a self-fulfilling illusion. Fighting a needless fight is a self-fulfilling illusion. As you needlessly fight the world with resentment and nonacceptance, the world fights back. If you believe you have to eat just because you are hungry, you will eat when you are hungry. If you believe you have to obey fear, you will.
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In It Together (page 134) wrote:This dreamy world may be but a mirror. If you look in it with hateful eyes, hateful eyes will hate you back.

I am not a Christian, nor religious at all, but I am inspired deeply by Jesus's words as recorded in the Christian Bible. it is interesting--and not really a coincidence--that there are parallels between the above concepts and this quote of Jesus:

"Do not judge, or you will be judged. For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
(Matthew 7:1)


These ideas are also explored in my forum topic, To have hate in your heart at all is to be in hell.
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#444725
I agree, perception is projection, and I really think people only see what they like. In the general sense of the world we find ourselves on a planet that is slowly falling apart for this exact same reason. People only see what they want to see, they act in a way that, based on their perception, is correct. This only ends up damaging the world we live in. In summary: we’re all selfish.
#445002
The apparent reality is determined by biological consciousness because of the given constitution of said biology, that does not mean that what you perceive is actually what is. There is a difference between apparent reality and ultimate reality, ultimate reality is a place of no things.
#446069
A fun example of the fact that perception is mostly (if not fully) projection is this hilarious skit from Key & Peele:




:lol: :lol: :lol:
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#454343
When we perceive something, our brains actively interpret and make sense of sensory information. This process is influenced by our past experiences, beliefs, and emotions, leading to a subjective interpretation. In a sense, we project our own mental framework onto the external stimuli, shaping our perception of reality.
#454959
The assertion posits that perception is predominantly shaped by internal projections, emphasizing how our thoughts and biases mold our worldview. While external factors contribute, interpretations are frequently colored by personal experiences and beliefs. This underscores the inherently subjective nature of perception, urging mindfulness of our biases when making sense of our surroundings. It underscores the intricate interplay between internal perspectives and external stimuli, prompting a thoughtful consideration of individual subjectivity in the process of perception.
#455049
I agree, although I think there is definitely something to be said about the dangers of wishful thinking. While you don't want to be a paranoid jerk that insists on seeing the worst in everyone, being a kind-hearted idiot that insists on giving every single person the benefit of the doubt attracts all sorts of unsavory people who will waste no time in showing you the harsher side of how the world works. I think that projection can be useful, provided we remind ourselves that that is exactly what it is and remember that other people have the potential to be so much more than we are capable of perceiving through the lens of our own being.
#455296
It's fascinating to consider the diverse ways in which individuals interpret and interact with the world based on their inner state. The examples you provide, from the arrogant finding justifications for their arrogance to happy lovers with inner peace finding beauty everywhere, illustrate the subjective nature of perception.

The notion of our conscious perception being akin to a VR-like waking dream adds an intriguing layer to this discussion. It invites us to ponder the intricate relationship between our minds and the external world, suggesting that our individual realities are constructed within the confines of our own consciousness.

While it's essential to acknowledge the role of external stimuli and shared objective reality, your perspective underscores the influence of our internal landscape on how we perceive and interpret our surroundings.

This perspective encourages us to engage in self-reflection and introspection, as well as to consider how our internal beliefs and biases can shape our experiences. It reminds us of the importance of cultivating awareness and questioning our own perceptions to foster a deeper understanding of ourselves and the world around us.
#455908
In such cases, they may be more prone to interpreting situations in a way that reinforces their feelings of unhappiness. This cognitive bias, known as a confirmation bias, can lead them to focus on aspects that validate their misery while overlooking or downplaying positive elements. Cultivating awareness of this tendency can be a crucial step in breaking the cycle of negative thinking and opening up the possibility for a more balanced perspective.
#456108
Understanding the role of projection in perception has implications for fields such as psychology, philosophy, and neuroscience. It underscores the subjectivity of individual experiences and highlights the need for a nuanced approach when examining human cognition.

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