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This is a discussion forum topic for the November 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All.


Here is a quote from the book which appears on page 160 (of the hardcover):
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes wrote:There is great power in peacefulness and acceptance because there is great waste in restlessness, resentment, and unforgiveness.

What do you you think?

Does the above sentence retain its meaning well even when quoted out of context as above? Or does one really need to read the book to fully capture its meaning?


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This is an interesting question. I feel like it depends on the mindset of the person who is reading the quote. For instance, if a person is already on the path of wanting inner peace, he/she can read this quote and reflect on it and believe/understand its meaning.

On the other hand, if a person is not quite on the path of finding inner peace and is not searching for it, he/she may not fully grasp the quote and may need further reading to comprehend its meaning.

Does that make sense?
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I found this quote on page 174 of Kindle Version. I think reading the quote is enough for anyone to grasp the full meaning of it. But it is better to read the rest of the book (and the part that is above this quote) for the better understanding.

Fighting needs energy, and it is tiresome. But if one can accept what is there, even if it is not very pleasant, there will be no more waste of energy, time, money, etc. Only peacefulness will remain, If one choose to resent and fight, he/she will always left with restlessness until he/she wins. Even if he/she wins, it would have cost energy, money, and most importantly the inner peace of the present, which is a great waste.
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hsimone wrote: November 5th, 2022, 9:43 am This is an interesting question. I feel like it depends on the mindset of the person who is reading the quote. For instance, if a person is already on the path of wanting inner peace, he/she can read this quote and reflect on it and believe/understand its meaning.

On the other hand, if a person is not quite on the path of finding inner peace and is not searching for it, he/she may not fully grasp the quote and may need further reading to comprehend its meaning.

Does that make sense?
I am sorry but I do not see the need for someone to be in the path for finding inner peace to fully grasp the meaning of this quote. Let us just take the key words in this quote, peacefulness and acceptance at one side and resentment and restlessness on the other side. If you ask me which side is the better by just giving me the key words, I would definitely have chosen the former.

Yes, it is true that one has to think a bit deep to see the power of peacefulness and acceptance. But I think it has nothing to do with being on the pathway for inner peace.
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Sushan wrote: November 20th, 2022, 5:26 am
hsimone wrote: November 5th, 2022, 9:43 am This is an interesting question. I feel like it depends on the mindset of the person who is reading the quote. For instance, if a person is already on the path of wanting inner peace, he/she can read this quote and reflect on it and believe/understand its meaning.

On the other hand, if a person is not quite on the path of finding inner peace and is not searching for it, he/she may not fully grasp the quote and may need further reading to comprehend its meaning.

Does that make sense?
I am sorry but I do not see the need for someone to be in the path for finding inner peace to fully grasp the meaning of this quote. Let us just take the key words in this quote, peacefulness and acceptance at one side and resentment and restlessness on the other side. If you ask me which side is the better by just giving me the key words, I would definitely have chosen the former.

Yes, it is true that one has to think a bit deep to see the power of peacefulness and acceptance. But I think it has nothing to do with being on the pathway for inner peace.
It’s interesting because I feel the opposite. Yes, I think most people would choose the words, peacefulness and acceptance versus resentment and restlessness, but that doesn’t mean that the person fully believes or understands its full meaning.

For example, if there’s a person who is constantly is trying to one-up someone else at work or someone who spreads lies about another, both of those people could easily say, “I choose peacefulness and acceptance” when they are out of the situations stated above (i.e. at home or doing their favorite activity), but put them back at work or with the person they don’t like and they’re back to showing resentment and/or being restless.

That was where my line of thought was going. People can say many things, but until they fully accept its true meaning, then the old patterns won’t change. This is why those who are more self-aware and looking for inner peace would most likely be more successful in not only understanding those words, but living them.
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hsimone wrote: November 20th, 2022, 11:00 am
Sushan wrote: November 20th, 2022, 5:26 am
hsimone wrote: November 5th, 2022, 9:43 am This is an interesting question. I feel like it depends on the mindset of the person who is reading the quote. For instance, if a person is already on the path of wanting inner peace, he/she can read this quote and reflect on it and believe/understand its meaning.

On the other hand, if a person is not quite on the path of finding inner peace and is not searching for it, he/she may not fully grasp the quote and may need further reading to comprehend its meaning.

Does that make sense?
I am sorry but I do not see the need for someone to be in the path for finding inner peace to fully grasp the meaning of this quote. Let us just take the key words in this quote, peacefulness and acceptance at one side and resentment and restlessness on the other side. If you ask me which side is the better by just giving me the key words, I would definitely have chosen the former.

Yes, it is true that one has to think a bit deep to see the power of peacefulness and acceptance. But I think it has nothing to do with being on the pathway for inner peace.
It’s interesting because I feel the opposite. Yes, I think most people would choose the words, peacefulness and acceptance versus resentment and restlessness, but that doesn’t mean that the person fully believes or understands its full meaning.

For example, if there’s a person who is constantly is trying to one-up someone else at work or someone who spreads lies about another, both of those people could easily say, “I choose peacefulness and acceptance” when they are out of the situations stated above (i.e. at home or doing their favorite activity), but put them back at work or with the person they don’t like and they’re back to showing resentment and/or being restless.

That was where my line of thought was going. People can say many things, but until they fully accept its true meaning, then the old patterns won’t change. This is why those who are more self-aware and looking for inner peace would most likely be more successful in not only understanding those words, but living them.
You are correct. But in that given example the peacefulness of the mind was based on the location and situations. Unless the person was among those who he disliked, he could be at peace. So if he could practically avoid meeting those who he disliked or resented, he would have achieved peacefulness without spiritually meddling over the subject.
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