The importance and beauty in realizing there is no problem of evil

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The importance and beauty in realizing there is no problem of evil

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This is a discussion forum topic for the November 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All.


The idea that "there is no problem of evil", when realized as true, enables both atheists and theists alike to accept, appreciate, and love reality as a whole--especially in terms of eternal unchanging timeless 4D spacetime (a.k.a. the universe)--as if it was created by an omnipotent all-loving god, regardless of whether or not they believe that to be literally true.

When you look at the world like that, you loving appreciate the harmonious perfect beauty of the universe as a perfect eternal unchanging timeless 4D whole, including all of spacetime including both the parts of it in your relative past versus in your relative future at any given moment, or to your relative left versus to your relative right at any given moment. You appreciate and love the world as a perfect beautiful unchanging eternal whole.

A crucial part of this way of looking at things comes from fully and unconditionally accepting what one cannot change and cannot control (e.g. the past). This means accepting what you didn't choose as if you chose it.

When you fully accept the proverbial cards you have been dealt, it means you are accepting and appreciating those cards as if you chose to have been dealt them.

Assuming you also accept your actual choices as if you chose them, which makes sense since you did in fact choose them, then that means you accept everything as if you chose it.

That is an idea worth repeating: It means you accept everything as if you chose it. Everything.

We can swap out the word acceptance with love, which is arguably more applicable for the kind of full unconditional graceful inner-peace-providing all-forgiving acceptance. Then it is loving everything. Indeed, a whole chapter of the book is titled, "Just Love Everything".

You are omnipotent over your choices, meaning you are 100% in control of your choices and always get what you choose when it comes to your choices. Thus, when you also consider the unchosen aspects of reality (i.e. that which you know you cannot change) as if it was chosen by you, then everything appears like it was made by an omnipotent all-loving being who not only did choose everything but chose to make it exactly how you would have. It's as if there is an all-known all-powerful all-loving god with a divine plan writing the dramatic story of your current one human life, and of all life.

When you unconditionally fully accept unchangeable reality (i.e. the unchosen, meaning what you don't control), then the following becomes revealed:

Everything is as acceptable to you as the choices you are making in your present.

You are as contently at peace with the whole world as you are with your choices in your present.



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Re: The importance and beauty in realizing there is no problem of evil

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This initial post makes me think about perspective and outlook relating to beauty. Wouldn't it be great if everyone looked at the world positively, with no eye towards evil? It would be spectacular to live in a world where no attention is shown towards the concept of evil; this would be great considering that there is no true concept or problem of evil. It is the first step towards positivity to recognize that there is no problem that surrounds evil. Wake up!
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Scott wrote:When you look at the world like that, you loving appreciate the harmonious perfect beauty of the universe as a perfect eternal unchanging timeless 4D whole, including all of spacetime including both the parts of it in your relative past versus in your relative future at any given moment, or to your relative left versus to your relative right at any given moment. You appreciate and love the world as a perfect beautiful unchanging eternal whole.
The world is perfect on its own, just like a person on its own. It's in the mind who defines that perfection.
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Eckhart Aurelius Hughes wrote: December 15th, 2022, 7:23 pm This is a discussion forum topic for the November 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All.


The idea that "there is no problem of evil", when realized as true, enables both atheists and theists alike to accept, appreciate, and love reality as a whole--especially in terms of eternal unchanging timeless 4D spacetime (a.k.a. the universe)--as if it was created by an omnipotent all-loving god, regardless of whether or not they believe that to be literally true.

When you look at the world like that, you loving appreciate the harmonious perfect beauty of the universe as a perfect eternal unchanging timeless 4D whole, including all of spacetime including both the parts of it in your relative past versus in your relative future at any given moment, or to your relative left versus to your relative right at any given moment. You appreciate and love the world as a perfect beautiful unchanging eternal whole.

A crucial part of this way of looking at things comes from fully and unconditionally accepting what one cannot change and cannot control (e.g. the past). This means accepting what you didn't choose as if you chose it.

When you fully accept the proverbial cards you have been dealt, it means you are accepting and appreciating those cards as if you chose to have been dealt them.

Assuming you also accept your actual choices as if you chose them, which makes sense since you did in fact choose them, then that means you accept everything as if you chose it.

That is an idea worth repeating: It means you accept everything as if you chose it. Everything.

We can swap out the word acceptance with love, which is arguably more applicable for the kind of full unconditional graceful inner-peace-providing all-forgiving acceptance. Then it is loving everything. Indeed, a whole chapter of the book is titled, "Just Love Everything".

You are omnipotent over your choices, meaning you are 100% in control of your choices and always get what you choose when it comes to your choices. Thus, when you also consider the unchosen aspects of reality (i.e. that which you know you cannot change) as if it was chosen by you, then everything appears like it was made by an omnipotent all-loving being who not only did choose everything but chose to make it exactly how you would have. It's as if there is an all-known all-powerful all-loving god with a divine plan writing the dramatic story of your current one human life, and of all life.

When you unconditionally fully accept unchangeable reality (i.e. the unchosen, meaning what you don't control), then the following becomes revealed:

Everything is as acceptable to you as the choices you are making in your present.

You are as contently at peace with the whole world as you are with your choices in your present.



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The book is available for purchase from all major book retailers in both ebook and hardcover format.
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Realizing there's no inherent problem of evil can lead to a profound shift in perspective. It allows us to explore the concept of morality without the burden of an absolute moral contradiction. Embracing this view can open discussions about subjective interpretations of good and evil, fostering a deeper understanding of diverse perspectives on morality and ethics.
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