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## Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

Discuss the November 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes.

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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

lec_nemanja wrote: March 25th, 2023, 6:00 am I agree that time is not real. However, time measurement is real. I believe that many people unconsciously confuse these two concepts.
Can you define the word "measurement" as you use it? Is it subjective or objective?

In various fields of physics, there are some fundamental unresolved problems include (1) the Observer Problem, and (2) the Measurement Problem.

Different observers will measure distances and times differently. Just as what is to the left in one observer's reference frame can to the right in another person's reference and neither left nor right in a third person's reference frame, what's in the past in one observer's reference from can in the future in another's. What's time in one reference frame can be space in another, or vice versa. Different observer's can measure how long something in space differently, which is called length contraction in Einstein's physics. Likewise, they can measure how long something is in time differently, which is called time dilation in Einstein's physics. Likewise, events happen can happen in a different order in different reference frames, such that event A is before event B in one observer's reference frame while event B is before A in another observer's reference frame, which is called the relativity of simultaneity in Einstein's physics.

For more on that, please see my other topic, Your left is not the left. There is no "the left". Likewise, there is no "the past" or "the future". Time is not real.

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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

To answer this, it is best to identify what real is. I think real is something that cannot be altered in this concept. I believe the time is real because when it is daytime the sun gives us light, and when the sun sets it's at night. I don't believe anyone has the capability of changing a day or night. What I question as not being real is the seconds inclusive of but not limited to days and years.
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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

I think time is always changing, and the "now" at this very moment will never be the same as the "now" just moments later. I think time is only real at the present moment. I wonder if this is similar to what you are meaning?
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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

I have once also come to the realization that time is define by our current circumstances and how we deliberately defined it.
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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

I do find it strange that from elementary to middle school, time was never a factor in my life. It's not until when people get into that teenage age frame that time and a time limit is added to our life. The answer to this question can be that time is not real and real at the same time, it's all about what time is being linked with. If someone is terminally ill, then time is a major factor in how long they can live; but that timeframe is not exact, it can be shorter or longer than expected. I suppose that instead of worrying about time, we should live in the moment. Because when we are so focused on time, we stress heavily and forget that the moment we are living in is what's most important.
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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

If you say time is not real, then man is not real too because time is as old as man, if not older. This world is the machinations of God's awesomeness. Time is the most mysterious element that can never be understood or fully acquired by man. The real magic in this world is time.
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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

I believe time is real. If not why do we grow old and die? That is proof that time is real. The fact that we cannot understand time or bend it to our will is what frustrates us as humans. Time is the only element we have not and cannot conquer. That doesn't make it any less real though.
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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

It's fascinating to contemplate the nature of time and reality, as these concepts often challenge our understanding of the world. I think your idea that nothing real is temporary reflects the eternal nature of existence - because nothing IS temporary. Everything is matter, and matter cannot be created or destroyed. "Time" is just our way to describe change. Change is certainly real, but I think that thinking about it in terms of "time" leads to poor decision making.

Saying "I'll get to that tomorrow" for some reason sounds better to many people than saying "I'll get to that when my situation has changed such that I have fewer other things in need of my attention". If something is important enough to do, it's important enough to do now. Waiting for things to change until the circumstances are just right is a perfect way to stunt your own success.
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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

I believe the concept of linear time was a Christian innovation. The pagans believed in cyclical time.
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### Re: Time is not real. Correspondingly, nothing real is temporary.

I believe, Time is a Man-Made thing which bound us to do a certain task on a day and rest at night to make the human body to work in a routine manner. I also believe that it is created to make hold unto human capability to do things. I heard a man once, he lived 3 day into a single day by breaking the time of the whole day into 3 parts and he achieved many things by following this routine. So, Yes! Time is not real and and not permanent at all. If it has real then it would have been permanent into our lives, but its not as we can change by changing our daily routine and perspective of how we see to the world as a whole.
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