Do you agree with everything in the book, "In It Together"? If not, what is the first sentence with which you disagree?

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Re: Do you agree with everything in the book, "In It Together"? If not, what is the first sentence with which you disagr

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Jenna Padayachee wrote: February 9th, 2024, 4:44 pm "There Is No Problem of [Should-Not-Have-Ness]"
Hi, Jenna Padayachee,

Thank you for your reply.

To be clear, as I use the word "evil", it simply means "should-not-have-ness". If you have interpreted me as meaning something else by it, then that is not a disagreement but rather simply a misunderstanding.

However, if you do believe that should-not-have-ness (a.k.a. "evil") exists, then I ask you to reply to all six of the numbered questions in the following topic:

Six Questions for People Who Believe Should-Not-Have-Ness Exists (i.e. for people who believe in 'shoulds' and 'oughts')


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Post by Jenna Padayachee »

Indeed!, the use of the word "Evil" interpreted as "should-not-have-ness" , has cleared up my "misunderstanding" within this chapter 🙌

I do not believe in "should-not-have-ness " as it resists the possibility of a transitional state from within , limiting freedom and undefined potential.

Thank you!!
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While I found this book amazing, I found somethings that I disagree with. The sentence "There is nothing to forgive." (Page 154) is quite ludicrous. Yhere is absolutely everything to forgive. People who offend others without showing remorse are the worst kinds of people.
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Hella Layot wrote: February 19th, 2024, 6:41 am While I found this book amazing, I found somethings that I disagree with. The sentence "There is nothing to forgive." (Page 154) is quite ludicrous. Yhere is absolutely everything to forgive. People who offend others without showing remorse are the worst kinds of people.
HI, Hella Layot, are you sure that (1) you read the whole book and that (2) that is the very first sentence with which you disagree?

I don't understand how it could be, since it comes after the chapter about there being no evil, and also literally the sentence right before that one ends with the phrase, "there is no need for forgiveness at all." In other words, the sentence you've quoted as the allegedly first sentence with which you disagree is just a repeat of previous sentences/points, so it's essentially physically impossible that that could be the first sentence with which you disagree, if you read every sentence in order.

Is it possible you've just randomly taken one sentence from the book that you happen to disagree with, perhaps quoted out of context by someone else, and incorrectly listed it here in this topic as the very first in the book with which you disagree?


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I definitely didn’t agree with everything in the book. When I came across the sentence on page 127, "There Is No Problem With Evil," it didn't quite resonate with me . It's a bold statement, right? I think it's because it seems to gloss over the complexities of moral philosophy. Evil, as a concept, is deeply intertwined with cultural, societal, and personal values, so to dismiss it as 'not a problem' feels a bit simplistic. It's like saying we shouldn't bother understanding the roots of what causes harm or suffering. But, you know, that's just my two cents.
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Christabel nmeso wrote: February 21st, 2024, 9:29 am I definitely didn’t agree with everything in the book. When I came across the sentence on page 127, "There Is No Problem With Evil," it didn't quite resonate with me .
Hi, Christabel nmeso,

That is a misquote.

The book doesn't say there is "no problem with evil"; it says "There is no Problem of Evil".

For reference, the "Problem of Evil" is the name for an alleged argument/evidence against the existence of a God.

If you are arguing that there is a Problem of Evil, then you are saying you don't believe in all-loving all-powerful God, which is fine if that's what you are saying. Is that what you are saying?

In other words, if you believe (like me) that there is no Problem of Evil, then that is consistent both with beliving there is god or beliving there is not a god.

However, if you believe there is a Problem of Evil, then that it logically inconsistent with believing in the existence of an all-powerful all-loving all-benevolent God.


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I do not agree that love is unconditional. Every love comes with a condition. People love because they could be related, the have feelings for them or they feel good when they help them. These are conditions.
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Henry Daniel 2 wrote: March 1st, 2024, 4:55 pm I do not agree that love is unconditional. Every love comes with a condition. People love because they could be related, the have feelings for them or they feel good when they help them. These are conditions.
Hi, Henry Daniel 2,

Please quote verbatim the very first sentence from the book with which you disagree.

Please include the page number.


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I believe spiritual freedom (a.k.a. self-discipline) manifests as bravery, confidence, grace, honesty, love, and inner peace.
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Coming from a person that loves arguing, I can't argue with anything.
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Hi, all. This is the first sentence(on page 13) that I disagree with; "You will quicker find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow than find happiness through achieving goals and fulfilling desires, be they for money, fame, sex, procreation, or whatever." I feel happy while I am working toward a goal and anticipating the fulfillment of a desire. Once I reach my goal or fulfill the desire, I set my sights on another goal or desire to fulfill. The process alone gives me happiness. Achievement of the goal or a fulfilled desire is the icing on the cake! :)
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Gerry Steen wrote: March 18th, 2024, 12:28 pm Hi, all. This is the first sentence(on page 13) that I disagree with; "You will quicker find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow than find happiness through achieving goals and fulfilling desires, be they for money, fame, sex, procreation, or whatever." I feel happy while I am working toward a goal and anticipating the fulfillment of a desire.
It sounds like you actually agree with me and just misunderstood what I meant by the sentence (which reflects much more on how well I wrote it, not how well you read it).

I agree that the only way to get true happiness is to be happy while chasing goals since there are always new goals. That was actually my point, so it seems you read the sentence as meaning the opposite of what I meant by it.

Even though we agree and this was just a misunderstanding, I deeply appreciate you bringing this misunderstanding to my attention. I am currently finished up the newest edition (which will be 3rd edition) and will edit that sentence slightly to make it more clear.

Here is what I have tentatively edited it to say:

"You will quicker find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow than satiate your insatiable body and ego by achieving goals and fulfilling desires, be they for money, fame, sex, procreation, or whatever. Those things cannot bring you true happiness (a.k.a. consistent inner peace)."


Is that more clear and agreeable?
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Hi, Scott. I am happy I could help. Yes, the editing you are doing to that sentence for the 3rd edition will make it more clear and agreeable. Thank you for sending me a response. I will continue reading your book a little every day and leave posts. Good luck with the third edition. :)
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Chiwelite Obioma Mgbeoji wrote: February 21st, 2023, 7:44 am It took me some time and a little bit of reading over and over again to have a better understanding of some sentences. In particular, my first reaction to "...because there is no evil" was to dismiss it since I hold on to the belief that there is evil everywhere and in all of us. Reading over and over again, I think I could understand what you meant.
You really took the time to dive deep into those sentences and truly absorb their meaning. It's takes effort to read a book over and over just to understand the author's POV.
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I agree with everything in the book. Could'nt find what to diagree with.
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Being exposed to certain perspectives for the first time made me go through lots of critical thinking to choose whether to agree or disagree with the messages being conveyed. I agree with most of the statements after going through series of thoughts to justify them.
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