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If they knew better, they would do better. For anyone and anything, say, "Forgive them, for they know not what they do."

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If they knew better, they would do better. For anyone and anything, say, "Forgive them, for they know not what they do."

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Everyone thinks what they believe is true at the time they believe it.

Everyone does what they think is best at the time they do it.

If they knew better, they'd do better.

This is true of others in space, and others in time, including your so-called past self.

For anyone and anything, say, "Forgive them, for they know not what they do."

You always think you are right, but that's what people who are wrong think. That's what everyone thinks.

If you were fully in someone else's shoes, you would do exactly as they do.

If you were in the exact same situation as them, both inside and out, meaning you had their memories, their body, their feelings, their taste buds, their bodily urges, their trauma, and so on, you would do exactly as they do.

The illusion that you could or would behave differently if you were fully in their shoes is the same as the illusion that the past could be different. Find inner peace by letting go of the illusion that it could or would be any different. The same conditions lead to the same outcome.

Whether it is so-called others in time (e.g. your past self) or so-called others in space, you can always forgivingly say, "If I was them, I would do exactly as they do."

For anyone and anything, you can let ago of any and all resentment, and with unconditional forgiveness and love, honestly and truly say, "If I was them, I would do exactly as they do."

When taken to its full logical conclusion, we then see that, although our many bodies and their conditioning are different, our true selves are identical. Our bodies may be different ages, with different hair colors, different heights, different memories, different taste buds, and so on so forth. But those bodies each have a corresponding spirit, and that spirit is identical. Spiritually, it is your own identical reflection that you forgive or not, that you love or not. Then we can even remove the "if" from the statement, "If I was them, I would do exactly as they do." In terms of the real you and the real them, you are them.

Whether it is your others in time (e.g. your past self) or your others in space (e.g. your siblings, your parents, your kids, your neighbors across the street, people living in another country, etc.), ultimately the real person you are forgiving or not--the spirit--is you. The one you love or hate, the one you forgive or resent, is you. If you say anyone who would do XYZ deserves hate, and you would do XYZ, then the conclusion is clear of what you are actually saying. Fundamentally, all hate is self-hate. Fundamentally, humanity is one, the outer world is a mirror, you see what you want to see, and the one you love and forgive or not is yourself, your true self, in disguise.


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Scott wrote:Fundamentally, humanity is one, the outer world is a mirror, you see what you want to see, and the one you love and forgive or not is yourself, your true self, in disguise.
Exactly, when I hate, truly, I hate myself because no one benefits from this hate, that is only me. When I love, that is I love myself first because if I dont, how can I show love? The outer world is the mirror of the inner world, the outer is the reflection/or result of the inner world.
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Post by Covenant Olusegun »

This is true, and it sounds like a biblical quote too, but truly, we need to forgive people because most times they probably don't know that they are wrong, or if they do, they have not come to the consciousness and acceptance of how wrong it is.
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