What the word "evil" means to me, and why I believe evil (as I use the term) does not exist.
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Hi, Youngreader720,Youngreader720 wrote: ↑February 5th, 2024, 11:36 am From a religious standpoint, it is tough to agree that evil does not exist, and that is how I was raised. However, you make a good case for your viewpoints here. There are a lot of instances of evil in the world as well.
Keep in mind that (1) what you call "evil" and (2) what call "evil" may be two completely different things, and #1 may exist even though #2 doesn't. All I am saying is that #2 doesn't exist. If you think #1 exists, that doesn't mean you disagree with me. In analogy, it's like if someone asks whether the gun-owning snake is armed, and you say yes and I say no; we may not disagree but rather just are using the same one word "armed" to refer to completely different things.
Nonetheless, if you believe what I call "evil" (i.e. should-not-have-ness) actually exists, please do reply in both of the following topics, making sure to answer each and every one of the six questions:
- To believe in an all-powerful God and think 'should-not-have-ness' exists is to therefore believe that God did a bad job
- Six Questions for People Who Believe Should-Not-Have-Ness Exists (i.e. for people who believe in 'shoulds' and 'oughts')
Otherwise, if you agree that should-not-have-ness does not exist, then we are in complete and total agreement. You would just happen to be using the word 'evil' or 'armed' differently than I do, which is not a disagreement but rather a semantic preference and beautiful diversity.
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I believe spiritual freedom (a.k.a. self-discipline) manifests as bravery, confidence, grace, honesty, love, and inner peace.
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While the concept of evil can be subjective and varies depending on one's personal beliefs and values, your perspective offers a thought-provoking alternative. It encourages a mindset focused on acceptance, love, and understanding, which can contribute to personal growth, societal harmony, and a more compassionate world.
It is important to remember that discussions around the concept of evil can be complex, and different individuals may hold different definitions and interpretations. However, your viewpoint provides a valuable perspective that challenges traditional notions of evil and invites us to consider an alternative framework centered on acceptance and unconditional love.
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From the viewpoint of a hunted animal, the hungry person who is hunting them for dinner is evil. This shows how evil can often depend on your perspective.
As far as your definition, I can see what you’re saying, but I’m not sure I feel the same way about it. I can understand how you got there from the philosophy of radical acceptance, and I suppose the only way to disagree with you on your viewpoint is to not subscribe to that point of view. That is the crux of the debate. I can see events in the world, or things that have happened to people I know, and absolutely feel that they shouldn’t have happened. My friend should never have been raped. That child should never have been murdered. That man should never have killed all those women. I think that the only way to learn from the past is to say that it shouldn’t happen that way. During World War 2, concentration camps should never have happened. It’s through teaching that those things should never have happened that we avoid allowing them to happen again. From your stance of radical acceptance, however, the logic is sound.
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Hi, Alissa Nesson,Alissa Nesson wrote: ↑February 9th, 2024, 4:02 pm I can see events in the world, or things that have happened to people I know, and absolutely feel that they shouldn’t have happened.
Thank you for your reply. Since you believe things have happened that shouldn't have happened (i.e. the unchangeable past should not be the way it unchangeably is), please, if you will, do post a reply in the following topic making sure to answer each and every one of the six numbered questions:
Six Questions for People Who Believe Should-Not-Have-Ness Exists
I look forward to your answers. I love learning about different perspectives.
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In this case, please post a verbatim quote of the very first sentence in the book with which you disagree as a reply in the following topicHenry Daniel 2 wrote: ↑March 1st, 2024, 6:05 pm I totally understand what you mean but I must say that I disagree with you on this one.
Do you agree with everything in the book, "In It Together"? If not, what is the first sentence with which you disagree?
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Yes, exactly, me too!Colleado Keana Rose wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 6:28 pm I believe "evil" is a term that often signifies something that should not have happened or something deemed morally wrong. In my view, thinking that unchangeable reality 'ought' to be different contradicts the acceptance of what we cannot control. I don't perceive "evil" as a valid concept because I choose to unconditionally accept what I cannot change. This belief aligns with my commitment to unconditional love, forgiveness, and the acceptance of every being, even those others might label as "evil."
"The mind is a wonderful servant but a terrible master."
I believe spiritual freedom (a.k.a. self-discipline) manifests as bravery, confidence, grace, honesty, love, and inner peace.
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