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Discuss the November 2022 Philosophy Book of the Month, In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes.

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#445270
As my book explains in detail, there are Two Yous, and thus, in a way, you live in two worlds at once.

It's okay to be confused or unsure.

Often, it's a symptom that you are in the process of escaping the hellish prision that is the comfort zone, and that you are beginning to awaken into spiritual lucidity, into a realer world that is infinitely more vivid, and vast, and beautiful.

It's okay to be half-caterpillar and half-butterfly. In fact, going through it is the only way you'll ever fly.



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#445274
I can well identify with the above words in the post. This is an exploration of knowledge. Sometimes, using the right words for a situation presents the solution to the problem we are facing. Being a beginner in the spiritual world opens us to every challenge in the world. Dealing with the early stages of the awakening process is yet another question in our lives.
#445946
"It's okay to be half-caterpillar and half-butterfly. In fact, going through it is the only way you'll ever fly."

This quites resonates well with me. It's okay to be down sometimes. One can hit the rock bottom, learn from the fallings, them come up stronger and better. Failures are ways we learn how to fly.
#445990
Like the phases or stages of growth from an (ugly) crawling caterpillar into a (beautiful) flying butterfly, time is a key factor to develop from one state of being and metamorphose into an advanced higher state of being.

In terms of human beings, the growth cycle is slow and starts as an infant to adulthood. In the beginning, our full potential of maturity and level of knowledge and wisdom has not fully developed.
As humans continuously learn new things to advance their level of maturity and understanding, I agree we will always have moments of confusion or uncertainty.

I believe once a focused state of clarity involving the elements of self-discipline, education, moral values, spiritual enlightenment, and shared knowledge or experiences, in due time, will change an (ugly) soul into a (beautiful) mind with clear intentions and intellectual thoughts to soar just like the butterfly with no limits to where the new path discovered takes you.

Failure is the uncertainty that is the confusing part to many humans, which leads to stagnation or staying within a comfort zone. Failure is the motivation for the next phase or stage to have a successful growth from mistakes learned along the way.
#449848
The phrase "half-caterpillar and half-butterfly" resonates with me as I'm transitioning into a career I'm not entirely confident in yet.

I feel like I've amassed a good amount of skills and knowledge. At the same time, I feel stupid when I come across competitors who are already thriving in the field.

I am indeed in a "half-caterpillar and half-butterfly" stage. But yeah, as long as I don't step back and recoil into the familiar comfort of being a whole caterpillar again, I'm certain I'll continue to evolve into a vibrant butterfly and fly high.
#449950
This reminds me of a similar message I saw once. In order for a caterpillar to become a butterfly it needs to wrap itself in a cocoon and dissolve itself first. So if you are stuck on the couch wrapped in a blanket unable to do anything with your life right now - that's okay - this may just be the stage you need to go through to emerge as a butterfly.
#449959
The statement embraces the idea of embracing uncertainty and transformation. Accepting ambiguity is part of personal growth, symbolized by the caterpillar-to-butterfly metaphor. It suggests that being in a state of transition, even with uncertainties, is a natural part of the journey toward positive change. The notion encourages resilience, acknowledging that the process of becoming something new may involve confusion and ambiguity. Ultimately, it conveys a message of hope, emphasizing that navigating through uncertain phases can lead to a transformative and liberating outcome, akin to the butterfly's flight after metamorphosis.
#450002
In my understanding, the idea that there are Two Yous suggests a dual nature within myself, implying I live in two worlds simultaneously. It reassures me that it's okay to feel confused or unsure, framing these feelings as signs of breaking free from the comfort zone and awakening into a more vivid and beautiful reality.

I find solace in the notion that being half-caterpillar and half-butterfly is acceptable, even necessary for eventual flight. This metaphor resonates with my life, emphasizing that going through discomfort and uncertainty is an essential part of my transformative journey towards personal growth and spiritual awakening.
#450176
For me, I think that what this quote explains is is about embracing the process of change and growth. It basically says that sometimes we're in a transitional phase, not fully what we were or what we'll become. It suggests that going through these changes is necessary to achieve something greater,
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#450264
I think as humans, we're constantly in a sate of evolving and discovering ourselves. At many points in life, one can be confused or unsure about who they are and they soon grow certain of who they are in that moment before the cycle starts all over again when they discover something new that makes them question themselves once again.
#450956
The journey of self-discovery is indeed a path of duality, where the 'Two Yous' often grapple with the comfort of the known and the pull of the deeper, spiritual self. It's comforting to know that confusion isn't a setback but a sign of growth, of stepping out of the 'comfort zone' and evolving. The metamorphosis from the caterpillar to the butterfly is a powerful metaphor for transformation. It's in embracing the discomfort of change that we truly spread our wings. 🦋
#451047
The concept of Two Yous, existing in two worlds simultaneously, resonates with me, hinting at a dual aspect of personal experience. The acknowledgment that confusion may accompany this journey suggests a path of breaking free from the comfort zone and entering a more spiritually lucid and vibrant reality. The metaphor of being half-caterpillar and half-butterfly feels relatable, emphasizing that embracing both states is essential for personal transformation and the ability to truly soar.
#452601
I like the concept that you can be half-caterpillar and half-butterfly. I feel that if you are in this phase, you are in the transition of your life. If you do not take this transformation, you cannot fly. Caterpillars cannot fly, but they are integral to the butterfly's flight. You will go through many phases in your life. In the growth phase, you cannot go from the start to the finish without going through the middle. You have to go through parts where you are half your old self and half who you are becoming. You will always need to go through this in order to learn something new, grow, and become stronger. Great concept!

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