The illusion of birth, death, separation, and loss. The real you and the real them are one in the same.

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The illusion of birth, death, separation, and loss. The real you and the real them are one in the same.

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Throughout a human life, a human will experience many material losses. They will lose money, lose jobs, lose physical items they legally own. Sometimes the loss is to due the lost thing being broken or destroyed, and sometimes it is due to being physically by some kind of separation or physical limitation, such as literally not being able to find the thing or otherwise being unable to get to the thing despite the thing still existing. Perhaps most of all, they will lose other humans to which they are emotionally attached (so-called 'loved ones'). They will lose them to break ups and death.

Examples include the death of a parent, the death of a spouse, the death of a best friend, or even the death of the human's own biological child.

However, one who has read my book, "In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All", knows that it is only the separated individuated body/ego that is suffering the loss.

The real you never incurs any kind of loss. The real you never loses anything. The real you is that which unifies the would-be separated things. The real you is that which transcends thinghood, revealing thinghood and thus even all things to be an emergent illusion. The real you never loses anything, in part simply because there is never anything to lose. You were never seperate enough from any alleged other would-be so-called 'thing' for you and it to ever be two different things. Neither you nor they were never really separate enough for either to be a thing.

As my book proves, the real you and the real them are one in the same. They aren't two things because they aren't two.

In terms of the real you, you are the parent just as much as you are the child, and everyone else ever, no more no less.

In terms of the real you, you are spouse who died first as much as you are the spouse who died second, and everyone else ever, no more no less.

In terms of the real you, you are both the lion that chases the antelope, and the selfish antelope who selfishly runs away to save himself (meaning his false self, meaning his body and ego) at the expense of starving suffering lion.

The real you and the real them are both eternal and are actually the same one thing.

The real you can never be separate from (a.k.a. lose) the real them because the real you is the real them. You can't ever truly lose your self, not in terms of your true real self (i.e. the real you). You can't ever truly be separate from yourself, not in terms of your real self (i.e the real you).

The loss and separation is always an illusion.

You weren't born or created. The false self born. The false self was created. The unreal you was born. The unreal you was created. The body and ego were born and created, but really only as concepts. The line that divides this from that, one thing from another, that which is the thing and that which is that thing--is like a border on a map that only exists on the map and doesn't really exist in what is mapped.

The real you doesn't have a beforelife or afterlife because it doesn't have a life. It was never born, and it never dies.

You have countless presumably infinite bodies and forms that you wear like clothing throughout all of eternal timeless spaceless spacetime. But you--the real you--exist everywhere and nowhere, everywhen and nowhen. You trasncend the illusions of space, time, seperation, creation, birth, death, and destruction. You transcend the illusion of thinghood. You are the real thing that exists and is mapped by the different contradicting maps, you are not any one map nor defined or limited by the borders drawn on such map.

One person's map says life and personhood and ego begin at conception. Another says they begin when the first hairs on the head pop out of the vagina. Others say they exist once the umbicle cord is cut. Others say it's when the heart starts beating.

The question of when you were born or created is a loaded question that is loaded with falsehoods and absurdities. You were never born, and there is no time (or proverbial map), at least not without you to dream it up and experience it. There is no presence or moments in spacetime without you.

You can't talk about when you were born because there is no when with you, and even with you there is only emergent subjective whens, still no objective whens, still no objective time.

When your beloved pet or mother or brother or spouse dies, remember that the real them has not been lost. You are the real them. The separation was an illusion. The separation, dualities, and individuations were always an illusion.

We are one, not merely poetically but truly and literally. The real us is never truly separated, for it is singular and omnipresent. The real you and the real me and the real them is all the same one thing. We are literally logically always together in the same way that "it is always now" and you, the real you, are always here.

Insofar as there is any true moment in time, there is only one moment in time. Insofar as anything is objectively now, everything is.

Insofar as there is any true point in space, there is only one point in space. Everything is here, together.

Insofar as there is any simultaneity, everything is simultaneous. Objectively; there is no non-present.

Insofar as anything is objectively present, everything is.

The separation is an illusion, as is the thinghood of the things that would be separated and thus even the things themself.

The unreal you (a.k.a. the false self or ego) is a thing. It--like all things--is an illusion. It's thinghood is an illusion. It's separation is an illusion. The line separating it's pre-birth from its post-birth is an illusion; it's a border on an imaginary constructed map.

Time, birth, and death are all illusions.

Separation and loss are illusions.

The real you, the real me, and the real them are never separate from each other.

We are never separate from each other because we are each other.

The real you is never separate from the real you.



With love,
Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
a.k.a. Scott



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Re: The illusion of birth, death, separation, and loss. The real you and the real them are one in the same.

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Exciting. On careful analysis, it is indeed true that loss is not loss but just separation. It is difficult to detach me from them. Me and them are one thing that cannot incur loss. Loss is just incurred in the self-ego but not in the much said material loss.
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Re: The illusion of birth, death, separation, and loss. The real you and the real them are one in the same.

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I completely agree with the concept that understanding the illusory nature of separation can lead to inner peace. It's a powerful realization that can help us navigate the challenges of life with a sense of calm and acceptance. However, while embracing this mindset, it's also important to acknowledge that in our day-to-day lives, we often feel the need to protect what we've gained—whether it's our relationships, possessions, or achievements. It's a delicate balance between recognizing the temporary nature of these things and living responsibly within the context of our human experiences. This awareness can help us appreciate life without becoming overly attached to material or emotional possessions.
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