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Henry Case wrote: December 13th, 2022, 8:15 pm Will there ever be an end to Taylor Swift albums?...she's doing three a year now
Well, I think this rhymes with the race related topic. But I am sorry I do not see the philosophy in the subject.

Anyway, she will not be able to sing forever, and also will not be able to live forever. So it will not take much long for your question to be answered exactly. And there will be a time when no one even knows her name.
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MLunardini wrote: December 13th, 2022, 10:27 pm It depends, obviously.
The variables are many.
To reply straightforward to the answer:
[*] No, there isn’t a certain correlation.

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Why would you say right away that there is no correlation. There are people who can work with people, while there are others who prefer machines over people. The former will choose more social jobs while the latter will choose jobs that will let them work alone. And there social behaviour will resemble the same. I think that is adequate correlation.
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LuckyR wrote: December 14th, 2022, 2:58 am
Arbu123 wrote: December 13th, 2022, 4:16 pm
LuckyR wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:08 am Yes and no. Just as there are (small) differences between the races, there are differences between members of different job types. HOWEVER, these differences are much smaller than the differences between members WITHIN races and job types.
I was thinking the same thing. Goes along with the “Will there ever be an end to racism?” thread.
Both are examples of the lack of understanding of the statistical behavior of groups vs individuals.
Statistics is an analysis of observations. Statistics can be biased as well as wrong. And, yes, when case by case are considered that can be far different from group wise statistics. But that does not make it wrong or irrelevant. In statistics we come into conclusions using grouped data. But in the process we loose the value of individual values that can exert a great impact on the results.
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Arbu123 wrote: December 14th, 2022, 6:47 pm
LuckyR wrote: December 14th, 2022, 2:58 am
Arbu123 wrote: December 13th, 2022, 4:16 pm
LuckyR wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:08 am Yes and no. Just as there are (small) differences between the races, there are differences between members of different job types. HOWEVER, these differences are much smaller than the differences between members WITHIN races and job types.
I was thinking the same thing. Goes along with the “Will there ever be an end to racism?” thread.
Both are examples of the lack of understanding of the statistical behavior of groups vs individuals.
You said it. But each individual is affected by their group.
Groups are comprised of people. So the group qualities resemble the qualities of its people. At the same time people join to groups that they like or suitable for them. Or they choose to change according to thw group. So it is an equation that runs both ways, and continously.
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Sushan wrote: December 27th, 2022, 6:57 am
LuckyR wrote: December 14th, 2022, 2:58 am
Arbu123 wrote: December 13th, 2022, 4:16 pm
LuckyR wrote: December 6th, 2022, 3:08 am Yes and no. Just as there are (small) differences between the races, there are differences between members of different job types. HOWEVER, these differences are much smaller than the differences between members WITHIN races and job types.
I was thinking the same thing. Goes along with the “Will there ever be an end to racism?” thread.
Both are examples of the lack of understanding of the statistical behavior of groups vs individuals.
Statistics is an analysis of observations. Statistics can be biased as well as wrong. And, yes, when case by case are considered that can be far different from group wise statistics. But that does not make it wrong or irrelevant. In statistics we come into conclusions using grouped data. But in the process we loose the value of individual values that can exert a great impact on the results.
Barring errors, statistics aren't "wrong", though simple-minded conclusions based on incorrect interpretation of statistical results are frequently wrong.
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LuckyR wrote: January 1st, 2023, 2:46 pm
Sushan wrote: December 27th, 2022, 6:57 am
LuckyR wrote: December 14th, 2022, 2:58 am
Arbu123 wrote: December 13th, 2022, 4:16 pm

I was thinking the same thing. Goes along with the “Will there ever be an end to racism?” thread.
Both are examples of the lack of understanding of the statistical behavior of groups vs individuals.
Statistics is an analysis of observations. Statistics can be biased as well as wrong. And, yes, when case by case are considered that can be far different from group wise statistics. But that does not make it wrong or irrelevant. In statistics we come into conclusions using grouped data. But in the process we loose the value of individual values that can exert a great impact on the results.
Barring errors, statistics aren't "wrong", though simple-minded conclusions based on incorrect interpretation of statistical results are frequently wrong.
I would rather not jump into that conclusion. Statistics are taken from various studies. And there are a number of study methods that all have their pros and cons. While what you said regarding conclusions can be true, it can very well be either a wrong or misleading conclusion that was provided by a correctly done and correctly interpreted statistical analysis of a study as well.
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Sushan wrote: December 5th, 2022, 8:50 am The author have suggested that there is a correlation between a man's job and how he views the world. In other terms we should be able to get an idea about a man's view on the world and how his mind will work in certain scenarios just by getting to know his job. What do you think? Do you think such a thing is possible and acceptable?
From what my son has told me (self employed in IT) this seems true of many people in his branch, and I think that there are many examples where the profession drives the point of interest. It isn't a law of nature though, and my son is the best example.
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This exactly! For some people in IT, the statement is very true. But my husband for example, is the most non black and white thinker I have ever met. He is always pointing out the subtleties in an issue. For an IT guy he has a lot of out of the box thinking, and way more creative/crafty tendencies than me :D For every rule, there is an exception or ten.

Stoppelmann wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 4:40 am
Sushan wrote: December 5th, 2022, 8:50 am The author have suggested that there is a correlation between a man's job and how he views the world. In other terms we should be able to get an idea about a man's view on the world and how his mind will work in certain scenarios just by getting to know his job. What do you think? Do you think such a thing is possible and acceptable?
From what my son has told me (self employed in IT) this seems true of many people in his branch, and I think that there are many examples where the profession drives the point of interest. It isn't a law of nature though, and my son is the best example.
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Stoppelmann wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 4:40 am
Sushan wrote: December 5th, 2022, 8:50 am The author have suggested that there is a correlation between a man's job and how he views the world. In other terms we should be able to get an idea about a man's view on the world and how his mind will work in certain scenarios just by getting to know his job. What do you think? Do you think such a thing is possible and acceptable?
From what my son has told me (self employed in IT) this seems true of many people in his branch, and I think that there are many examples where the profession drives the point of interest. It isn't a law of nature though, and my son is the best example.
I agree that a person's profession can often shape their interests and perspectives on the world. It is natural for individuals to become immersed in their work and develop a strong connection to it, which can influence their worldview.

For instance, someone working in IT may develop a strong interest in technology and its applications, which could shape their perspectives on innovation and progress. However, this is not always the case, and individuals can have diverse interests and perspectives, even within the same profession.
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ReviewsByChristine wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 11:09 am This exactly! For some people in IT, the statement is very true. But my husband for example, is the most non black and white thinker I have ever met. He is always pointing out the subtleties in an issue. For an IT guy he has a lot of out of the box thinking, and way more creative/crafty tendencies than me :D For every rule, there is an exception or ten.

Stoppelmann wrote: March 2nd, 2023, 4:40 am
Sushan wrote: December 5th, 2022, 8:50 am The author have suggested that there is a correlation between a man's job and how he views the world. In other terms we should be able to get an idea about a man's view on the world and how his mind will work in certain scenarios just by getting to know his job. What do you think? Do you think such a thing is possible and acceptable?
From what my son has told me (self employed in IT) this seems true of many people in his branch, and I think that there are many examples where the profession drives the point of interest. It isn't a law of nature though, and my son is the best example.
I completely agree with the notion that not all individuals who work in the field of IT are black and white thinkers. In fact, it is a common misconception to assume that people in IT are solely focused on logic and rules without considering the subtleties and nuances of a given situation.

As you have pointed out, your husband is a prime example of someone in IT who possesses a more creative and out-of-the-box mindset. This showcases that there is no singular mold that defines people in the field of IT. Instead, individuals come from diverse backgrounds and bring with them unique perspectives and ways of thinking.

Moreover, the idea that for every rule, there are exceptions or ten reinforces the understanding that life is complex and multifaceted. There are no universal truths or absolute answers that apply to every situation. Rather, each circumstance demands careful consideration and a willingness to adapt to its particularities.
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