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Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by Greta » July 4th, 2018, 2:59 am

I'll stick with Hypershock, though it's hard to see any of them beating Tombstone or Minotaur :)

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by LuckyR » July 5th, 2018, 1:59 am

Tombstone has the ultimate weapon and Minotaur has a great driver, but SawBlaze has a very good design and is a good driver. Huge is also a unique design.
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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by Greta » July 5th, 2018, 6:05 pm

Ah, some new machines. We don't have the third season here yet.

Interesting that threshers, grinders and wheels are most effective, being the only kind of weaponry that are not seen in nature.

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by LuckyR » July 5th, 2018, 6:16 pm

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Ah, some new machines. We don't have the third season here yet.

Interesting that threshers, grinders and wheels are most effective, being the only kind of weaponry that are not seen in nature.
SawBlaze is a... diamond tipped saw... with a flamethrower to melt internals through the slice in the armor. Huge is a vertical spinner that is so tall that it can hit high angles (where armor is typically thin), in addition it is plastic so is incredibly agile and can always turn such that it is always approached towards the weapon.

The best weapons in nature are not allowed, namely a web to immobilize spinny stuff
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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by LuckyR » July 5th, 2018, 6:18 pm

BTW there is a Kiwi bot, End Game that is doing very well
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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by Greta » July 6th, 2018, 6:37 pm

That's good. Maybe the Kiwis can carry Antipodean pride? The Australian bot, modelled after a croc, was annihilated by Captain Shredderator, which was hardly the greatest bot itself, but our bot make it look like a world beater :)

True about the weapons bans. Interesting how tech goes. They banned nets and pure wedgebots to prevent lopsided contests, and now the contests are lopsided in favour of spinners. Of course, human combat makes clear the most effective fighting strategy - lethal sharp or explosive projectiles sent at great speed and accuracy from a safe distance. This would, however, pose a slight safety problem for drivers, staff and audiences :)

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by LuckyR » July 6th, 2018, 11:53 pm

Greta wrote:
July 6th, 2018, 6:37 pm
That's good. Maybe the Kiwis can carry Antipodean pride? The Australian bot, modelled after a croc, was annihilated by Captain Shredderator, which was hardly the greatest bot itself, but our bot make it look like a world beater :)

True about the weapons bans. Interesting how tech goes. They banned nets and pure wedgebots to prevent lopsided contests, and now the contests are lopsided in favour of spinners. Of course, human combat makes clear the most effective fighting strategy - lethal sharp or explosive projectiles sent at great speed and accuracy from a safe distance. This would, however, pose a slight safety problem for drivers, staff and audiences :)
There is a cannon bot this time. Problem is, only one shot.
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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by Greta » July 7th, 2018, 1:02 am

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There is a cannon bot this time. Problem is, only one shot.
Probably for the best :)

It's not wildly different to a nature-inspired bot I thought up (speaking as one with near-Lego level engineering knowledge and skills). I would call it Mantis Shrimp, inspired by the animal's famous punch, although Tyson could work as a name too. It would basically be a small, solid box like Minotaur but, instead of a roller it would have a heavy metal puncher pushed out with explosive force, maybe hydraulic.

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by LuckyR » July 8th, 2018, 1:46 am

Greta wrote:
July 7th, 2018, 1:02 am
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July 6th, 2018, 11:53 pm
There is a cannon bot this time. Problem is, only one shot.
Probably for the best :)

It's not wildly different to a nature-inspired bot I thought up (speaking as one with near-Lego level engineering knowledge and skills). I would call it Mantis Shrimp, inspired by the animal's famous punch, although Tyson could work as a name too. It would basically be a small, solid box like Minotaur but, instead of a roller it would have a heavy metal puncher pushed out with explosive force, maybe hydraulic.
There is a puncher bot but it was poorly designed and underpowered
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Post by Greta » July 8th, 2018, 7:46 pm

Lucky, yesterday I read an article about the physics of robot fighting and apparently the advantage that spinners have over hammers and punchers is storage of energy, readily released. A hammer or puncher can only generate over the time it takes to swing.

Ah yes, this was about football :) The Poms are looking good but I like the look of France's play. The Croats will be too tired after two extra time games and Brazil were the strongest team, but not the luckiest (that goes to Belgium). Apparently Brazillian diving to some extent stems from the way the Brazillian league is refereed, being much more strict about contact.

Still, the rolling and writhing makes for good entertainment - to see tough young lads who have battled their way up the ranks to the world stage thinking they are being clever by acting like, well, babies - hell, not even five year old girls tend to react like that - and thinking that no one will realise that they are acting.

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by Steve3007 » July 10th, 2018, 12:07 am

The poms are indeed looking good enough that, yet again, here in pommy land hope is starting to spring again as it always does if they get to the knockout stage. The George Cross flags are flying from more and more windows and car roof tops. Only the second time in a World Cup semi-final since 1966. "52 years of hurt never stopped us dreaming". If Russia hadn't got knocked out, the whole "perfect storm" thing was starting to look quite interesting here, with the latest Novichok poisoning and the British government having just pretty much collapsed and all.

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by Greta » July 10th, 2018, 12:23 am

It must be fun with all that vibrancy in the air in England - which is hopefully not just the effects of Russian radiation poisoning!

Not wanting to be horrible but it is always fun to watch when the Brits get excited in the soccer and then fall - the sense of melodrama and tragedy seems to revitalise the dormant spirit of Shakespeare within the British breast, such is the poignantly dignified desperation. It's as if half the nation (the sports crazy part) turn into Anthony Hopkins in Remains of the Day en masse. Almost Nordic in its contained melancholic and agonised beauty.

I have to admit that I like the French team, and they play well too.

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by Steve3007 » July 10th, 2018, 12:42 am

Yes, it is a bit of a national joke that we all keep forgetting over and over again that, as a footballing nation, we are mediocre. Every four years there's the familiar progression from cynicism to a glimpse of hope and back to cynicism again. Shakespeare is indeed often referred to. I think there was actually a recent newspaper headline that quoted Henry V: "Cry God for Harry! England! And Saint George!" in praise of (Sir?) Harry Kane. All great hysterical hyperbolic stuff. If we reach the final, the country will briefly go completely insane with hope before returning the mundanity of everyday life.

I would like an England v France final, because some of my family have French connections, are in France now, and I think they should definitely watch it in a bar wearing all England colours. That would definitely be a good idea.

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Re: Fancy Playing World Cup Fantasy Football?

Post by Greta » July 10th, 2018, 2:04 am

Yes, when England gets excited it goes all Shakespearean.

England v France would be be much fun, esp for you and yours. Still, if Croatia force yet another penalty shootout with England the hospitals will have to be on alert for elderly football fans keeling over.

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