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You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

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You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Haicoway » September 18th, 2018, 8:30 am

Webster’s library dictionary has nearly a page of definitions and connotations of the word "love." The highest form of it for me was what I felt for my wife of 51 married years. We elevated the definition of our love for each other to what we called a spiritual union, transcending normal love. But love in general is like pornography, you know it when you see it – or feel it.

My wife died of cancer leaving my ego feeling like Swiss cheese. We had merged our egos into one, now it is shattered. She left me a millionaire with no children or family. I promised her as she lay dying that I would never acquire another significant other, or even a girlfriend. So I started paying women I found to be attractive tens of thousands of dollars to spend time with me, since I have biological imperatives for female companionship. Paid companions are not exactly girlfriends, so I feel I am keeping my promise. My payouts will soon run into hundreds of thousands of dollars for individual women. I “hired” very high quality women: TV actresses, PhD's from Ivy League schools, models, dancers, and women with other formidable talents, all of whom are young and beautiful.

They love me. Or if they don’t, I can’t distinguish how they treat me from love. So part of my point in posting this is to declare that I categorically refute the old maxim that you can’t buy love. You certainly can.

DISCLAIMER: You can’t act like a jerk. Women generally won’t tolerate jerks even if they are filthy rich. I know because several women I hired have talked to me about rejecting jerks who tried to buy them.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Fooloso4 » September 18th, 2018, 1:37 pm

It sounds like you are renting not buying.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by ThomasHobbes » September 18th, 2018, 4:43 pm

Haicoway wrote:
September 18th, 2018, 8:30 am
I “hired” very high quality women: TV actresses, PhD's from Ivy League schools, models, dancers, and women with other formidable talents, all of whom are young and beautiful.

They love me.
Sorry to hear about your wife ....but reading above - you are a jerk.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Steve3007 » September 19th, 2018, 3:55 am

The Beatles were famously in two minds about this question.
Haicoway wrote:They love me. Or if they don’t, I can’t distinguish how they treat me from love. So part of my point in posting this is to declare that I categorically refute the old maxim that you can’t buy love. You certainly can.
If it looks like a duck... eh?

Maybe they're method actors? If so, it may well be that they themselves also start to get confused between love and its paid-for facsimile.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Haicoway » September 19th, 2018, 7:06 am

I think that’s right, that the line gets fuzzy. I also feel that there’s something afoot in our contemporary culture that lends itself to money/love arrangements more now than in the past.

A family member who had been a sugar baby suggested I go that route when I told her I had promised my wife that I would only countenance paid-for arrangements so as not to develop too strong an emotional bond. That family member put me on a sugar daddy/sugar baby match site, from which I procured a SB. Regular women appeared fascinated that I had a baby. So half-jokingly I asked one if she would like to be a SB, too, and was surprised when she said yes. Then I asked another four women the same question, and three out of four were willing. I loved it when I would hand them cash and they just said thank you.

The women are young and beautiful, and I am sure would never go out with a 75-year-old man on a normal basis. Yet, after we dated they became very attached. I am sure there is an archetype in the female mind that welcomes being cared for, admired and protected by a male of means. And an old man probably fits that archetype (similar to a Gandalf) better than a young one. But normally that archetype lies unexpressed.

Recently I took two lovely paid-for young women to arguably the most magnificent hotel in the world (according to some travel critics) on the French Riviera. We were sitting on a sofa in the best suite in the hotel looking out at the Bay of Angels, when one of the girls pulled up Hey Violet’s “Guys My Age” (they don’t get it) on her iPhone and played it, while the girls smiled lovingly at me. It was magical, and revealing, leading to my talking about it here. I think it’s philosophically interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LzWUAk ... ture=share

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Fooloso4 » September 19th, 2018, 10:05 am

... I would only countenance paid-for arrangements so as not to develop too strong an emotional bond.
So then, love does not require a strong emotional bond?

Sounds to me like you are buying a certain kind of companionship not love. Your comment indicates you know the difference.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Haicoway » September 19th, 2018, 11:05 am

The word love has many meanings and connotations, like loving chocolate. I consider the bond with my wife to be a spiritual union, including, but also transcending, the many varieties of love. I love my sugar babies, but it is not a transcendent love – it’s more of an intimate fondness. The same way that they feel about me.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Haicoway » September 19th, 2018, 12:56 pm

This is an example, and an indulgence of ego, I admit. I’m not alone as a man in having espied the perfect, slender, young, ideal and inaccessible girl at a mall or in a McDonalds.

Such was the case of a receptionist working between just having graduated college and on her way to graduate school. I had passed by her twice and thought O…M…G! She’s half Black with long, silky, ringletty black hair, golden skin, and a drop-dead smile.

Last week nobody else was around and she introduced herself and shook my hand. A short discussion led to me telling her about my Riviera trip with sugar babies from which I’d just returned. She said she’d thought about sugaring, because, from a working-class family, she’d like to learn about wine and other finer things. I asked her if she would like to try it. She said yes. I’m almost four times her age. We’ll have our third date tonight.

A handshake by an idol in Japan is considered to be a hallowed, sensual event. I’ve watched videos of men being electrified by them. I have the dynamic firmly entrenched in my psyche and channeled it when shaking the girl’s hand. She told me during our first date that it was my handshake that captivated her. Don’t know how this relates exactly, but I am sharing it anyway.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Fooloso4 » September 19th, 2018, 1:12 pm

Such was the case of a receptionist working between just having graduated college and on her way to graduate school. I had passed by her twice and thought O…M…G! She’s half Black with long, silky, ringletty black hair, golden skin, and a drop-dead smile.
Have you mistaken this forum for Penthouse letters?

Is there something more to this other than your buying and enjoying the services of young woman?

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Haicoway » September 19th, 2018, 3:30 pm

No, I will cease and desist. I just dick around with life, and I am overly self-expressive.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by ThomasHobbes » September 19th, 2018, 6:06 pm

Haicoway wrote:
September 19th, 2018, 11:05 am
The word love has many meanings and connotations, like loving chocolate. I consider the bond with my wife to be a spiritual union, including, but also transcending, the many varieties of love. I love my sugar babies, but it is not a transcendent love – it’s more of an intimate fondness. The same way that they feel about me.
There's no fool like an old fool.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Steve3007 » September 20th, 2018, 5:07 am

To me, one important aspect of a meaningful relationship with another person is that if they disagree with me, of if they don't find me funny, or if they don't find me charming, or if they don't like me in any other way, then they can say so. If I am paying them to smile lovingly at me, and laugh at my jokes, and appear to think me charming then, for all I know, they might (by lucky chance) really think those things of me. But it's impossible to tell. Because the only circumstances under which they might stop appearing to think those things of me would be if the money ran out. Therefore, the loving smiles and the laughter are as meaningless as if they were programmed into a computer.

If I were to program a computer to output on its screen the line:

"Steve3007, you are the most wonderful, charming, witty, caring, handsome person I've ever met."

I wouldn't find it emotionally rewarding to read that line back. Although I can't tell with 100% certainty that my computer doesn't really think those things.

But it takes all sorts. There's nowt so queer as folk. If someone else were to get genuine pleasure from writing that computer program, good luck to them.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Haicoway » September 20th, 2018, 7:12 am

That other guy (I assume) suggested I was on the wrong forum for this subject, and I figured he was probably right, but since you chimed in, I’ll resume my dialog.

In my opinion, having and sharing wealth is no further removed as a factor connected with an individual than height, intelligence, education or hair color. Wealth is an integral part of the person. A woman saying she likes to date men with money is just as clean in her motive as one who says she likes to date men taller than herself. You can’t remove any associated factors from aesthetic preference. Some might say a person can love a pure soul. I could counter that scientists pretty much conclude that there is no soul, but distributed neural impulses in the brain.

I don’t know what it would feel like to be poor and loved. I have always had money, even as a teenager, and I always lavished it on the girls and women. Women love me so much tears come to their eyes, and if what they feel for me isn’t love, I can tell it you it is far good enough. They have freely admitted they wouldn’t love me as much if I didn’t have money.

What is unique to me, and what I am talking about, is that money appears to be a disproportionately important factor. I am 75 and feeling the same intensity of love from women that I felt as a young man. I don’t see (not that there aren’t any) any old men without money being loved as romantically powerfully by any women other than their family members, even if they have good personalities and are tall and good looking (for their ages).

And I am wondering if Trump, as much as he is dissed, or some other contemporary factor is raising the significance of money to women. I don’t know because I was married until recently and wasn’t fooling around with other women. But today beautiful girls as young as nineteen are infatuated with me.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Haicoway » September 20th, 2018, 7:23 am

Here’s my hypothesis. The Christian God has been supplanted by a bitch goddess. We learned in Business School that in marketing and advertising a unique selling proposition was required for a product’s positioning to be successful. You couldn’t say the same thing as your competitor and stand out. But today in TV, magazine, and billboard advertisements there is only one message: SAVE MONEY. That so flies in the face of what we learned. So I think that indicates that money has become supremely important to people for some reason. One is that everything costs so much today, except for clothes and gas (and a few other products), which have gotten cheaper, discounting for inflation.

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Re: You Can't Buy Love...Wrong

Post by Steve3007 » September 20th, 2018, 8:02 am

Haicoway wrote:That other guy (I assume) suggested I was on the wrong forum for this subject, and I figured he was probably right, but since you chimed in, I’ll resume my dialog.
It's my theory that some philosophy can be squeezed out of pretty much any subject. Even the Penthouse letters page. This particular subject potentially raises various philosophical issues.
In my opinion, having and sharing wealth is no further removed as a factor connected with an individual than height, intelligence, education or hair color. Wealth is an integral part of the person. A woman saying she likes to date men with money is just as clean in her motive as one who says she likes to date men taller than herself.
I take your point. But if this is true, then the person who is attracted to you for your money should be complimenting you for that asset.

If someone was attracted to me solely because of my hair colour, it would be strange if they kept telling me what lovely hands I have. Likewise, if someone is attracted to you for your money then, strictly speaking, they should be constantly saying such things as "I love your money. You're so rich. It's so wonderful that you're rich..." etc.

Of course, they won't do that if you have instructed them that in order to receive money they need to compliment you on other things. And they also won't do that if they've worked that out for themselves.

My earlier point was simply that my own personal preference is that I'm not really interested in paying people to lie for me. I don't find that emotionally rewarding. But if you do, and it makes you happy, go for it.
I don’t know what it would feel like to be poor and loved. I have always had money, even as a teenager, and I always lavished it on the girls and women. Women love me so much tears come to their eyes, and if what they feel for me isn’t love, I can tell it you it is far good enough. They have freely admitted they wouldn’t love me as much if I didn’t have money.

What is unique to me, and what I am talking about, is that money appears to be a disproportionately important factor. I am 75 and feeling the same intensity of love from women that I felt as a young man...
So what you're saying here is that of all the various variables/characteristics about yourself, the one that hasn't changed is your high level of wealth. And that is correlated with women's continued interest in you. That correlation suggests that they are interested solely in the money and not in any of the other variables. Again, if that works for you, go for it.
And I am wondering if Trump, as much as he is dissed, or some other contemporary factor is raising the significance of money to women.
Trump is as open as you are about the fact that he is very wealthy, and as a result of that, attracts the attention of women.

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