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Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

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Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

Post by Lone Wolf » November 1st, 2018, 12:56 pm

It has been my fortune to learn that people cannot begin to understand who they are or why they are here until they allow for the possibility that everything they believe may be wrong. This is not a widely held viewpoint, but the idea certainly did not originate with me. One of the reasons I came to this conclusion is that I read other people’s opinions about the subject and discovered that I have no certainty of anything except that I am. What I am, who I am, where I am, when I am, and why I am, are beyond my ability to comprehend. Reaching this level of comprehension has taken a lifetime. On the fourth Wednesday of this month the earth will complete its seventy-ninth orbit of the sun since I came screaming into this lifetime. I do not know how many more traverses of its orbital path the earth will make before I pass silently into another realm. At least I assume there will be another realm. I really don’t like the idea that this physical existence may be all there is to life, so I readily buy into the concept that there is life beyond death’s door. This belief may also be wrong.

The reason I say that people cannot begin to understand who they are or why they are here until they allow for the possibility that everything they believe may be wrong is that what they believe hasn’t given them the answers for these questions.

Understanding that I am ignorant makes me want to know the things I don’t have the ability to comprehend, so I try to understand why there are other people who seem to have grasped the meaning of life. However, it is also my understanding that Jesus is the only being in the last two millennia who understood the who, what, where, when, and why of existence and by so doing, he was able to elevate his physical body to the next realm. There is nothing in existence which I can use as a reference to prove that Jesus actually achieved that understanding. There is such a body of written information on his ascension that I am willing to accept there must be some truth in the story. Whose truth is it? My truth? No. It is certainly not true to the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and religions other than the Christians. However, the Christians have deified Jesus and, rather than learn what he was teaching, they say that he was the “Son of God” and simply worship him.

So why do I think it might be true? Because I have a need for it to be true. I need to believe that if I can comprehend what Jesus learned, then I too can ascend. As a result of this need, I have read all the purported sayings of Jesus in the Gospel of Thomas. There are 114 of these sayings in that gospel. I am reasonably sure that I understand at least five of them.

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Re: Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

Post by CLS1990 » February 28th, 2019, 7:31 pm

I am at the point in which you mention, I am whole heartedly uncertain, and I feel no closer to knowing who I am or why I am here and maybe this will continue forever. I don't believe uncertainty will give you answers, it's given me the inclination that I shall never know. Belief in something becomes a means to comfort, but I hope I'm wrong. What I know is that I have lived and that one day I shall die, everything in between is guesswork.

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Re: Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

Post by Lone Wolf » February 28th, 2019, 11:42 pm

Belief in something is a security blanket. Through an emotional experience in 1984 I became aware of something beyond my ability to comprehend that loves me. That experience so filled me with love and peace that people around me were asking me why I was so happy, but I couldn't tell them. It was pure emotion and there were no words. That is my current security blanket and it allows me to throw off a lot of the beliefs of my earlier life. I would like to meet someone who had a similar experience just to see if I'm not dreaming the experience.

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Post by Burning ghost » March 1st, 2019, 12:26 am

Your “understanding” is a belief in something you say you’re ignorant of. Start over.

Whe it comes to death Scorate put it succinctly enough. It is like an unopened box. There may be something within or there may be nothing. Worrying about it, or pretending to know what lies within, is a futile endeavor.

Comfortable truths are usually just selfmade lies that cover up a hard long road to some broader perspective. We can only spread ourselves so thin so I guess wenjust have to accept some comfortable truths in some areas. One thing for sure, we all have our own “Jesus” in some manner or form. -ursuit of meaning is better than dismissing meaning completely imo.
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Re: Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

Post by Lone Wolf » March 1st, 2019, 10:13 am

Burning ghost said, "Your “understanding” is a belief in something you say you’re ignorant of. Start over.'

After thirty four years of searching for knowledge of myself, I am not inclined to start over. As far as death is concerned, I am not concerned since we all go through that door at the end of physical existence. My inclination is to believe that there is something called an afterlife, but it doesn't worry me because everything I believe may be wrong.

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Post by Burning ghost » March 1st, 2019, 10:59 am

Lone Wolf wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 11:42 pm
Belief in something is a security blanket. Through an emotional experience in 1984 I became aware of something beyond my ability to comprehend that loves me. That experience so filled me with love and peace that people around me were asking me why I was so happy, but I couldn't tell them. It was pure emotion and there were no words. That is my current security blanket and it allows me to throw off a lot of the beliefs of my earlier life. I would like to meet someone who had a similar experience just to see if I'm not dreaming the experience.
In 1984 or from reading 1984? ;)
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Re: Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

Post by Lone Wolf » March 1st, 2019, 4:47 pm

Actually I read 1984 in the 1960's and coincidentally my student ID number in college was 019840. However the event in 1984 occurred long after I read the book and I couldn't find any correlation. Good question.

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Re: Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

Post by Burning ghost » March 1st, 2019, 8:50 pm

For what it’s worth I’ve had an experience akin to yours. I didn’t have a feeling of “something” though, just some, mostly incomprehensible, “thing”. It certainly made me view “fear” and “happiness” differently.
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Post by Lone Wolf » March 2nd, 2019, 1:22 am

My dad had a near death experience and we compared our feelings. As near as we could tell the feeling of absolute love and peace was the same. I have read a number of books on near death experiences and it seems that the feeling is very common for those people. Most of the things I feared have been reduced significantly as a concern since the epiphany.

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Re: Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

Post by Intellectual_Savnot » March 7th, 2019, 11:57 pm

Well thanks for spending your time with us on our Lone Earth. I grant to you my best wishes for understanding, my blessings for your ascension.

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Re: Everything I Believe May Be Wrong

Post by Lone Wolf » March 8th, 2019, 3:07 pm

Intellectual_Savot said, "Well thanks for spending your time with us on our Lone Earth. I grant to you my best wishes for understanding, my blessings for your ascension."

You may be sincere, but I read sarcasm in your response. FYI I was told in a dream that I will not ascend in this lifetime and I tend to believe the messages I receive from my subconscious. That doesn't keep me from learning all I can about myself in the meantime. I do thank you for the best wishes and blessings.

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