Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
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Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
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Trump seems to be freeing a massive list of crooks and cronies, after they have been convicted by due process of some really bad things.
This is a tradition based on Britian's Royal Pardon. But it was never abused in this way in living memory. Not in the UK, nor the US.
Trump has waited until after the election. If he'd have pardoned them BEFORE the election, he'd have spoily his chances.
Surely a pardoning ought to be done some time before any elections, so that the peope can show their opinion upon his choice?
If the US want to keep such an archaic system, then why not make a few basic guidlines or actual rules.
Right now, what Trump is doing is a damn embarassment.
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Re: Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
True dat. I figure is it better for the mango to go down in history as the biggest F up ever, or if he were to act "normal" at some point, perhaps get glossed over as just a little below average, say like Harding or Buchanan?Sculptor1 wrote: ↑December 24th, 2020, 10:21 am Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
Join the 19th Century
Trump seems to be freeing a massive list of crooks and cronies, after they have been convicted by due process of some really bad things.
This is a tradition based on Britian's Royal Pardon. But it was never abused in this way in living memory. Not in the UK, nor the US.
Trump has waited until after the election. If he'd have pardoned them BEFORE the election, he'd have spoily his chances.
Surely a pardoning ought to be done some time before any elections, so that the peope can show their opinion upon his choice?
If the US want to keep such an archaic system, then why not make a few basic guidlines or actual rules.
Right now, what Trump is doing is a damn embarassment.
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Re: Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
I suppose that the US is pretty much stuck with this antiquated presidential right since no potas would ever voluntartarily repeal that right.LuckyR wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 4:15 amTrue dat. I figure is it better for the mango to go down in history as the biggest F up ever, or if he were to act "normal" at some point, perhaps get glossed over as just a little below average, say like Harding or Buchanan?Sculptor1 wrote: ↑December 24th, 2020, 10:21 am Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
Join the 19th Century
Trump seems to be freeing a massive list of crooks and cronies, after they have been convicted by due process of some really bad things.
This is a tradition based on Britian's Royal Pardon. But it was never abused in this way in living memory. Not in the UK, nor the US.
Trump has waited until after the election. If he'd have pardoned them BEFORE the election, he'd have spoily his chances.
Surely a pardoning ought to be done some time before any elections, so that the peope can show their opinion upon his choice?
If the US want to keep such an archaic system, then why not make a few basic guidlines or actual rules.
Right now, what Trump is doing is a damn embarassment.
I think it would make a big difference, though, if all pardons had to be given out BEFORE an election since that might make them more reasonable.
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Re: Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
There you go again, proposing a completely logical idea in a political arena. Sheer madness, never going to happen.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 6:38 amI suppose that the US is pretty much stuck with this antiquated presidential right since no potas would ever voluntartarily repeal that right.
I think it would make a big difference, though, if all pardons had to be given out BEFORE an election since that might make them more reasonable.
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Re: Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
I think some logical sensible and wise decisions can emerge from the political process - even in the USA!!LuckyR wrote: ↑December 26th, 2020, 4:28 amThere you go again, proposing a completely logical idea in a political arena. Sheer madness, never going to happen.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 6:38 am
I suppose that the US is pretty much stuck with this antiquated presidential right since no potas would ever voluntartarily repeal that right.
I think it would make a big difference, though, if all pardons had to be given out BEFORE an election since that might make them more reasonable.
Frinstance; slavery was repealed. Maybe not for the best reasons in the end, but it was repealed. All the Americans have to do now is repeal it in their hearts too.
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I see you are an optimist. Good for you!Sculptor1 wrote: ↑December 26th, 2020, 6:52 amI think some logical sensible and wise decisions can emerge from the political process - even in the USA!!
Frinstance; slavery was repealed. Maybe not for the best reasons in the end, but it was repealed. All the Americans have to do now is repeal it in their hearts too.
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I am impatient. But there has been progress.LuckyR wrote: ↑December 27th, 2020, 3:05 amI see you are an optimist. Good for you!Sculptor1 wrote: ↑December 26th, 2020, 6:52 am
I think some logical sensible and wise decisions can emerge from the political process - even in the USA!!
Frinstance; slavery was repealed. Maybe not for the best reasons in the end, but it was repealed. All the Americans have to do now is repeal it in their hearts too.
My partner and I just watched "The Ripper" on Netflix concerning the Yorkshire Police's hopeless attempts to bring to justice "The Yorkshire Ripper".
The levels of ignorance, misogyny and lack of interest in what they liked to characterise as "prostitutes", (on very little grounds), was not only remarkable for its stupidity but by how antiquated it now seems.
So even in half a generation things have progressed.
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Re: Is it time for the USA to repeal the "Royal Pardon"?
Thanks for the support.
One feels that the most reasonable suggestions on this Forum are routinely attacked for the sake of it at times.
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