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Well, I do not follow him (I am not a Catholic). So I cannot comment related to this quote taking examples from myself.AverageBozo wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2021, 7:57 am How do [sub][/sub]you follow Jesus? What does following Jesus entail?
But as I can understand, if we keep aside the spiritual development, you cannot follow or adopt to each and every quality of him or do what he did unless you do not want to have a peaceful mundane life. Correct me if I am wrong.
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When you accept ANY delusion it will have an impact of many aspects of your life.Sushan wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2021, 5:38 am The below mentioned quote is found on page 27 of the book for the month of May, Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute: Tools To Spark Your Dream And Ignite Your Follow-Through by Jeff Meyer.
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You cannot accept or reject a delusion as it is a condition related to mental health. Actually it is an illness and has to be treated. But the religious beliefs, however much they are hard to believe, are excluded from the category of delusions because they have a cultural and a social background.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 24th, 2021, 3:03 pmWhen you accept ANY delusion it will have an impact of many aspects of your life.Sushan wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2021, 5:38 am The below mentioned quote is found on page 27 of the book for the month of May, Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute: Tools To Spark Your Dream And Ignite Your Follow-Through by Jeff Meyer.
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When you are having delusions, yes then you will attribute each and everything that you face either directly or indirectly to that delusion. And that is how secondary delusions occur.
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Hi Sushan,Sushan wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2021, 5:38 am The below mentioned quote is found on page 27 of the book for the month of May, Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute: Tools To Spark Your Dream And Ignite Your Follow-Through by Jeff Meyer.
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It would be easy to make technical points on this topic, that avoid the issue. Instead, I'll just tell, yes I agree.
Usually, in this context follow means to try to behave and react in the ways suggested by Jesus. If doing that the impact is much, spiritual, physical, psychological, emotional, probably others I don't list. It is a lifestyle and decision framework for everything if being congruent. I have not read the book but familiar with the idea. For example, one can be a thief and tell that following Jesus. That would not be congruent as those activities are not endorsed by Jesus.
Spiritual itself touches all parts of our life, by only touching that will affect all.
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Hi mystery,mystery wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 2:45 amHi Sushan,Sushan wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2021, 5:38 am The below mentioned quote is found on page 27 of the book for the month of May, Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute: Tools To Spark Your Dream And Ignite Your Follow-Through by Jeff Meyer.
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It would be easy to make technical points on this topic, that avoid the issue. Instead, I'll just tell, yes I agree.
Usually, in this context follow means to try to behave and react in the ways suggested by Jesus. If doing that the impact is much, spiritual, physical, psychological, emotional, probably others I don't list. It is a lifestyle and decision framework for everything if being congruent. I have not read the book but familiar with the idea. For example, one can be a thief and tell that following Jesus. That would not be congruent as those activities are not endorsed by Jesus.
Spiritual itself touches all parts of our life, by only touching that will affect all.
Thank you for your valuable opinion.
You have a valid point. One can adopt what Jesus did as a human to one's lifestyle and that will impact all activities related to his life. But given the life that Jesus led and how he ended up, will it be healthy for a person at present to fully adopt to His lifestyle?
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I do not agree with that. As Mark Twain once said “Having faith is believing in something you just know ain't true.”Sushan wrote: ↑May 24th, 2021, 10:03 pmYou cannot accept or reject a delusion as it is a condition related to mental health.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 24th, 2021, 3:03 pmWhen you accept ANY delusion it will have an impact of many aspects of your life.Sushan wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2021, 5:38 am The below mentioned quote is found on page 27 of the book for the month of May, Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute: Tools To Spark Your Dream And Ignite Your Follow-Through by Jeff Meyer.
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People chose between reason and faith. Having faith is a conscious decision to reject all the nagging doubts about religion.
The world is constructed from a series of delusion without which civilisation would fall.
Actually it is an illness and has to be treated. But the religious beliefs, however much they are hard to believe, are excluded from the category of delusions because they have a cultural and a social background.
Common delusions: belief, patriotism, nationalism, team support, money as value, wealth gives happiness, afterlife, racial purity, conspiracy theories (some might be true, but evidence cannot really justify belief).
When you are having delusions, yes then you will attribute each and everything that you face either directly or indirectly to that delusion. And that is how secondary delusions occur.
I'm sure you can think of many more such as soldiers are not meant to kill.
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Seemingly you are taking the term 'delusion' in a light manner.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 5:16 amI do not agree with that. As Mark Twain once said “Having faith is believing in something you just know ain't true.”
People chose between reason and faith. Having faith is a conscious decision to reject all the nagging doubts about religion.The world is constructed from a series of delusion without which civilisation would fall.
Actually it is an illness and has to be treated. But the religious beliefs, however much they are hard to believe, are excluded from the category of delusions because they have a cultural and a social background.Common delusions: belief, patriotism, nationalism, team support, money as value, wealth gives happiness, afterlife, racial purity, conspiracy theories (some might be true, but evidence cannot really justify belief).
When you are having delusions, yes then you will attribute each and everything that you face either directly or indirectly to that delusion. And that is how secondary delusions occur.
I'm sure you can think of many more such as soldiers are not meant to kill.
It has a specific meaning. A delusion is a firm belief, which is not amenable by reasoning, but not supported by cultural or religious beliefs. By that definition, most of your 'so called delusions' are excluded from being told as a delusion. People can have various beliefs, but it is not correct and also not a good thing to name them unnecessarily as delusions because it is a technical term.
For the notice, there is no belief as 'soldiers are not meant to be killed'. They are not to be killed unnecessarily, but they know that going to battle can be a one way ticket. And that is common to brass as well as grunts.
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I will love to hear other opinions on this also.Sushan wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 3:51 amHi mystery,mystery wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 2:45 amHi Sushan,Sushan wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2021, 5:38 am The below mentioned quote is found on page 27 of the book for the month of May, Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute: Tools To Spark Your Dream And Ignite Your Follow-Through by Jeff Meyer.
Do you agree? If so, why?Following Jesus Will Impact Every Aspect of Your Life, Not Just the “Spiritual” Part
It would be easy to make technical points on this topic, that avoid the issue. Instead, I'll just tell, yes I agree.
Usually, in this context follow means to try to behave and react in the ways suggested by Jesus. If doing that the impact is much, spiritual, physical, psychological, emotional, probably others I don't list. It is a lifestyle and decision framework for everything if being congruent. I have not read the book but familiar with the idea. For example, one can be a thief and tell that following Jesus. That would not be congruent as those activities are not endorsed by Jesus.
Spiritual itself touches all parts of our life, by only touching that will affect all.
Thank you for your valuable opinion.
You have a valid point. One can adopt what Jesus did as a human to one's lifestyle and that will impact all activities related to his life. But given the life that Jesus led and how he ended up, will it be healthy for a person at present to fully adopt to His lifestyle?
I don't think so, I wish that it would be, and not in a way that many have build systems around his memory but in a way to truly follow the same ideals he did. The only way that makes sense is if it was tied to the eternal as is his promise. Otherwise no, the truth of human nature is that the strong take all and decide what is allowed to the less strong. Following Jesus is a path to evolutionary removal. Reward in heaven perhaps, on earth, no. Biological selection will reward the strong, not the just. It is what it is.
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Biological selection and the strong one winning are things that we have experienced throughout the history and we are experiencing that today as well. But, has anyone seen heaven or has experienced spiritual development other than being heard of someone else's sayings? In such a background, is it wise to take a step away from evolution and go after an unknown, unseen heaven and a spiritual development giving up all the mundane comforts?mystery wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 6:30 amI will love to hear other opinions on this also.Sushan wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 3:51 amHi mystery,mystery wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 2:45 amHi Sushan,
It would be easy to make technical points on this topic, that avoid the issue. Instead, I'll just tell, yes I agree.
Usually, in this context follow means to try to behave and react in the ways suggested by Jesus. If doing that the impact is much, spiritual, physical, psychological, emotional, probably others I don't list. It is a lifestyle and decision framework for everything if being congruent. I have not read the book but familiar with the idea. For example, one can be a thief and tell that following Jesus. That would not be congruent as those activities are not endorsed by Jesus.
Spiritual itself touches all parts of our life, by only touching that will affect all.
Thank you for your valuable opinion.
You have a valid point. One can adopt what Jesus did as a human to one's lifestyle and that will impact all activities related to his life. But given the life that Jesus led and how he ended up, will it be healthy for a person at present to fully adopt to His lifestyle?
I don't think so, I wish that it would be, and not in a way that many have build systems around his memory but in a way to truly follow the same ideals he did. The only way that makes sense is if it was tied to the eternal as is his promise. Otherwise no, the truth of human nature is that the strong take all and decide what is allowed to the less strong. Following Jesus is a path to evolutionary removal. Reward in heaven perhaps, on earth, no. Biological selection will reward the strong, not the just. It is what it is.
– William James
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Indeed not. Common delusions are very serious indeed.Sushan wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 5:44 amSeemingly you are taking the term 'delusion' in a light manner.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 5:16 amI do not agree with that. As Mark Twain once said “Having faith is believing in something you just know ain't true.”
People chose between reason and faith. Having faith is a conscious decision to reject all the nagging doubts about religion.The world is constructed from a series of delusion without which civilisation would fall.
Actually it is an illness and has to be treated. But the religious beliefs, however much they are hard to believe, are excluded from the category of delusions because they have a cultural and a social background.Common delusions: belief, patriotism, nationalism, team support, money as value, wealth gives happiness, afterlife, racial purity, conspiracy theories (some might be true, but evidence cannot really justify belief).
When you are having delusions, yes then you will attribute each and everything that you face either directly or indirectly to that delusion. And that is how secondary delusions occur.
I'm sure you can think of many more such as soldiers are not meant to kill.
Human society is dangerously deluded.
People are killed every day due to delusions.
Says who?
It has a specific meaning. A delusion is a firm belief, which is not amenable by reasoning, but not supported by cultural or religious beliefs. By that definition, most of your 'so called delusions' are excluded from being told as a delusion. People can have various beliefs, but it is not correct and also not a good thing to name them unnecessarily as delusions because it is a technical term.
For the notice, there is no belief as 'soldiers are not meant to be killed'. They are not to be killed unnecessarily, but they know that going to battle can be a one way ticket. And that is common to brass as well as grunts.
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You can check any psychiatry book or even google and see the meaning of the word 'delusion'. There are many terms that are misused. But that does not change its meaning, only the meaning is manipulated by various people for their own agendas. There are occasions that though someone can read a word, cannot understand it properly. That also does not change the real meaning of that word.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 9:13 amIndeed not. Common delusions are very serious indeed.Sushan wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 5:44 amSeemingly you are taking the term 'delusion' in a light manner.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 5:16 amI do not agree with that. As Mark Twain once said “Having faith is believing in something you just know ain't true.”
People chose between reason and faith. Having faith is a conscious decision to reject all the nagging doubts about religion.The world is constructed from a series of delusion without which civilisation would fall.
Actually it is an illness and has to be treated. But the religious beliefs, however much they are hard to believe, are excluded from the category of delusions because they have a cultural and a social background.Common delusions: belief, patriotism, nationalism, team support, money as value, wealth gives happiness, afterlife, racial purity, conspiracy theories (some might be true, but evidence cannot really justify belief).
When you are having delusions, yes then you will attribute each and everything that you face either directly or indirectly to that delusion. And that is how secondary delusions occur.
I'm sure you can think of many more such as soldiers are not meant to kill.
Human society is dangerously deluded.
People are killed every day due to delusions.Says who?
It has a specific meaning. A delusion is a firm belief, which is not amenable by reasoning, but not supported by cultural or religious beliefs. By that definition, most of your 'so called delusions' are excluded from being told as a delusion. People can have various beliefs, but it is not correct and also not a good thing to name them unnecessarily as delusions because it is a technical term.
For the notice, there is no belief as 'soldiers are not meant to be killed'. They are not to be killed unnecessarily, but they know that going to battle can be a one way ticket. And that is common to brass as well as grunts.
People can be deluded by various things. And if they cause harm to others because of that, they are taken into mental health related hospitals under a mental health act and treated accordingly. But the things that some people do due to their personal agendas cannot be categorized as delusions because they have their own motives for their acts and behaviours.
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Neither psychologists nor psychologists invented the word. It had coinage 300 years before the "art" of psychology.Sushan wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 10:11 amYou can check any psychiatry book or even google and see the meaning of the word 'delusion'.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 9:13 amIndeed not. Common delusions are very serious indeed.Sushan wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 5:44 amSeemingly you are taking the term 'delusion' in a light manner.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 5:16 am
I do not agree with that. As Mark Twain once said “Having faith is believing in something you just know ain't true.”
People chose between reason and faith. Having faith is a conscious decision to reject all the nagging doubts about religion.
The world is constructed from a series of delusion without which civilisation would fall.
Common delusions: belief, patriotism, nationalism, team support, money as value, wealth gives happiness, afterlife, racial purity, conspiracy theories (some might be true, but evidence cannot really justify belief).
I'm sure you can think of many more such as soldiers are not meant to kill.
Human society is dangerously deluded.
People are killed every day due to delusions.Says who?
It has a specific meaning. A delusion is a firm belief, which is not amenable by reasoning, but not supported by cultural or religious beliefs. By that definition, most of your 'so called delusions' are excluded from being told as a delusion. People can have various beliefs, but it is not correct and also not a good thing to name them unnecessarily as delusions because it is a technical term.
For the notice, there is no belief as 'soldiers are not meant to be killed'. They are not to be killed unnecessarily, but they know that going to battle can be a one way ticket. And that is common to brass as well as grunts.
So the rest of your offering is null and void.
Monopolies do not exist on words.
Have you ever stopped to consdier the depths of your own quotidian delusions?There are many terms that are misused. But that does not change its meaning, only the meaning is manipulated by various people for their own agendas. There are occasions that though someone can read a word, cannot understand it properly. That also does not change the real meaning of that word.
People can be deluded by various things. And if they cause harm to others because of that, they are taken into mental health related hospitals under a mental health act and treated accordingly. But the things that some people do due to their personal agendas cannot be categorized as delusions because they have their own motives for their acts and behaviours.
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Everything cannot be defined by history. Something coming into practice early does not make it right. I may have my delusions and I will keep them (but I only used the word 'delusions' only for the sake of your understanding. I am not having any firm beliefs related to anything. If you can prove me wrong, I will accept at any point).Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 11:52 amNeither psychologists nor psychologists invented the word. It had coinage 300 years before the "art" of psychology.Sushan wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 10:11 amYou can check any psychiatry book or even google and see the meaning of the word 'delusion'.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑May 25th, 2021, 9:13 amIndeed not. Common delusions are very serious indeed.
Human society is dangerously deluded.
People are killed every day due to delusions.Says who?
It has a specific meaning. A delusion is a firm belief, which is not amenable by reasoning, but not supported by cultural or religious beliefs. By that definition, most of your 'so called delusions' are excluded from being told as a delusion. People can have various beliefs, but it is not correct and also not a good thing to name them unnecessarily as delusions because it is a technical term.
For the notice, there is no belief as 'soldiers are not meant to be killed'. They are not to be killed unnecessarily, but they know that going to battle can be a one way ticket. And that is common to brass as well as grunts.
So the rest of your offering is null and void.
Monopolies do not exist on words.Have you ever stopped to consdier the depths of your own quotidian delusions?There are many terms that are misused. But that does not change its meaning, only the meaning is manipulated by various people for their own agendas. There are occasions that though someone can read a word, cannot understand it properly. That also does not change the real meaning of that word.
People can be deluded by various things. And if they cause harm to others because of that, they are taken into mental health related hospitals under a mental health act and treated accordingly. But the things that some people do due to their personal agendas cannot be categorized as delusions because they have their own motives for their acts and behaviours.
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