Language and patience
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Language and patience
When language makes sense,
people are having fun with language,
and what they are saying is somewhere around there and not exact,
most understand what is being said,
some don’t and think about what they heard again, or stop bothering themselves with what they heard,
and out of all the impatient ones,
fewer get offended openly, as most impatient ones find out something about themselves on their own…and start being patient, which is fun for all…in a way that makes common sense for all
…or do you think otherwise…?
When language is exact,
to the ones who don’t like what has been said,
language seems cold,
and to the ones who regardless of whether they like what has been said or not, it is still fair,
language seems cool
…or do you think otherwise…?
Out of all the words in language, patience is that last word to fail, because when the word patience fails…
for the ones whose patience fails predictably, that is because of something they are doing that they shouldn’t be doing…
for the ones whose patience fails unpredictably, that is because of something they are not doing that they have to do…regardless of which idiot gets offended…
and for the ones whose patience fails predictably all the time, that is because they are being an idiot…
…or does it seem to you otherwise…?
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Re: Language and patience
It has always been a challenge for humans to be patient, for language may speak of it, but it is harder to act with.
Are the patient ones simply those who have been taught or have learned to stifle resentment in the face of frustration, or are they those who have stifled frustration itself? Or something else entirely?
Does true patience even exist, or is it only a superficial phenomenon in others' exteriors? Or something else entirely?
When language makes sense, patience becomes more agreeable to everyone, even if they do not accept it entirely or immediately.
When language is exact, patience might fail in the face of offence in one, while in another, patience might prevail and lead them to instead look for the truth in the cold-sounding words.
Patience may exist in any condition, and likewise for impatience. For some, patience will only exist where language makes the utmost sense, and in no other condition. For some, it may be unable to exist except when language is used in the most exact, precise way. For still others, patience will fail them again and again. And then there are those that maintain their patience.
Those who are impatient are discontent with the speed at which the world progresses.
For some, impatience will arise even with the usage of language itself. The time that it takes to speak or to write becomes too much for those individuals, in their haste to move on to other things.
Those that maintain their patience are content with the speed at which time is elapsing.
Language allows us to express ourselves, both in times of patience and impatience. When language fails, patience fails. And patience is the last word in language to fail.
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Re: Language and patience
When one imagines something, something else is happening around one, or else it doesn't seem to me where inside one really imagines something.Shurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm In my mind's voice, your words have an almost lyrical quality that inspires patience within me, however much I understand or do not, or however much I agree or do not. And a desire to express myself eclipses my misgivings and nervousness. I find myself in agreement with your ideas.
It has always been a challenge for humans to be patient, for language may speak of it, but it is harder to act with.
What does the above mean here and now?
For me it means that I have to wait and see when I am talking to someone whether I understand them, and whether they understand what I am saying to them, for the dialogue to make sense for both of us.
GenerallyShurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm Are the patient ones simply those who have been taught or have learned to stifle resentment in the face of frustration, or are they those who have stifled frustration itself? Or something else entirely?
When one doesn't know what one is doing, one learns that the moment one does it, or else it doesn't seem to me that there is a moment in time for one to learn it.
When one think one knows what one is doing now, one thinks that one learns that before the moment one does it, or else it doesn't seem to me that one knows something else from the ones who don't know what they are doing now.
When one knows what one is doing now, one does it now as one knows and one keeps waiting to learn, or else it doesn't seem to me that one knows to wait to learn.
Specifically
When I am waiting to learn something, the time I spend is relative for me, or if you really think otherwise...
When I am waiting to learn something, the time I spend is specific for me, but if you think this is what really happens to me...
If in the end, when I am waiting to learn something, the time I spend is specific for me, then it doesn't seem to me that I have to wait for something...does it really seem to you?
When I am in a hurry to learn something, the time I spend is specific for me, or if you really think otherwise...
When I am in a hurry to learn something, the time I spend is relative for me, but if you think this is what really happens to me...
If in the end, when I am in a hurry to learn something, the time I spend is relative for me, then it doesn't seem to me that I know how much in a hurry I am...does it really seem to you?
When I am in a bit of a hurry to learn something, I keep waiting to learn something, or if you really think otherwise...
When I am in a bit of a hurry to learn something, I don't keep waiting to learn something, but if you think this is what really happens to me...
If in the end, when I am in a bit of a hurry to learn something, I don't keep waiting to learn something, the it doesn't seem to me that I know when I am in a big hurry to learn something...does it really seem to you?
When I am in a big hurry to learn something, I don't know what I have to do, or if you really think otherwise...
When I am in a big hurry to learn something, I know what I have to do, but if you think this is what really happens to me...
If in the end, when I am in a big hurry to learn something, I know what I have to do, then it doesn't seem to me I am in a big hurry to learn what I have to do...does it really seem to you?
When I learned something, after that I don't have to keep waiting for something else, and I know what I have to do, or if you really think otherwise...
When I learned something, after that I have to keep waiting for something else, or I don't know what I have to do, but if you think this is what really happens to me...
If in the end, when I learned something, after that I have to keep waiting for something else, or I don't know what I have to do, then it doesn't seem to me that I what I learned...does it really seem to you?
You need patience to have fun in life. Why?Shurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm Does true patience even exist, or is it only a superficial phenomenon in others' exteriors? Or something else entirely?
You need patience to find out why. Why again?!
Because you find this out in a funny way!
Sometimes, it is more fun than what you can handle at that moment in your life.
Sometimes, it is less fun than what you want at that moment in your life, but...
...when you are having a good time, then it is just the right amount of fun...
...And to find those times, I am afraid it comes back to the beginning...
...you need patience to have fun in life.
When people in a group are making sense together, they wait to make sense together later. Why?Shurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm When language makes sense, patience becomes more agreeable to everyone, even if they do not accept it entirely or immediately.
Cause it's fun for people in a group to make sense together, over and over in time...
...and that doesn't happen by doing things faster over and over and over, or slower over and over and over...
...there is a pace that life lives together in reality.
When language is exact, cold-sounding words point to cool emotions now and later, or elseShurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm When language is exact, patience might fail in the face of offence in one, while in another, patience might prevail and lead them to instead look for the truth in the cold-sounding words.
When language is exact, cold-sounding words don't point to cool emotions now or later, but...
If in the end, when language is exact, cold-sounding words don't point to cool emotions now or later, then it doesn't seem to me that language is really any fun now or later, if one really wants to be exact with language now and later...does it seem to you?
Language bridges the way from what you imagine that you want to do, to what you can do in reality, by helping you find what you have to do in reality, if you follow the way that makes sense to you to follow in reality and not in your imagination only.Shurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm Patience may exist in any condition, and likewise for impatience. For some, patience will only exist where language makes the utmost sense, and in no other condition. For some, it may be unable to exist except when language is used in the most exact, precise way. For still others, patience will fail them again and again. And then there are those that maintain their patience.
Doing that in reality requires patience, in order for you to observe reality, follow your senses, and find out how your imagination can follow reality.
Imagine whatever you like in reality, reality has already solved the problem of any living being imagining freely and is able to keep them alive by making their emotions point to reality, where all the fun really is regardless what they imagine, over and over and over in reality.
The living beings who understand the above and are patient, understand that without reality, they couldn't imagine how they could really have fun, and don't spend more time and effort than they really have to with the ones who don't. Why?
Cause do they really have to?
Those who are impatient are discontent with the speed at which the world progresses, for them specificallyShurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm Those who are impatient are discontent with the speed at which the world progresses.
Those who are impatient are discontent with the speed at which the world progresses, for all...
...well those have to think for more than themselves and that requires more patience than thinking just for yourself...
...as what makes sense for all makes sense over and over in time, in reality, not just in ones imagination.
Language can set the pace that we do things when we are coordinating our actions in a group.Shurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm For some, impatience will arise even with the usage of language itself. The time that it takes to speak or to write becomes too much for those individuals, in their haste to move on to other things.
When impatience arises just with the usage of language, those words don't make sense to happen over and over, if we really want to do something together.
That can happen either because one is not patient with reality, or because one is simply testing others patience in reality, rather than trying to make sense.
That depends on whether what they are doing makes sense in reality.Shurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm Those that maintain their patience are content with the speed at which time is elapsing.
If what they do makes sense to happen over and over in reality, for that over and over they are content.
If what they do doesn't sense to happen over and over in reality, them saying that they are being patient in reality is lying to others, and this is what they are content about. Whether others find this out depends on others making sense of reality or not over and over...but
If over and over others don't make sense of reality, and they are lying to others, claiming that they are content because they are making sense in reality, well reality couldn't make anything more for them than let them freely follow their senses and make sense of reality or not, in a funny way for them. Why?
Because one trying to make sense of reality in a not fun way for one, doesn't seem to understand that reality had to solve that problem before that one was made, and leave that one completely free to make sense or not in a fun way for one, or else it wouldn't really be funny for one, would it really?
Here's what story patience lead me toShurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm Language allows us to express ourselves, both in times of patience and impatience. When language fails, patience fails. And patience is the last word in language to fail.
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Re: Language and patience
Here's what story patience lead me toShurpanaka wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2022, 3:33 pm Language allows us to express ourselves, both in times of patience and impatience. When language fails, patience fails. And patience is the last word in language to fail.
with the correct link...(as I wasn't patient the first time to send it right:) )
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