Yawn.Wizard22 wrote: ↑October 8th, 2022, 5:55 amI disagree, we know what police, firemen, lawyers, politicians, and just about every job are, by their function and purpose.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑October 7th, 2022, 7:49 amYou are misrepresenting me.
No group can have " A " purpose. If people accept certain beliefs they can adopt purposes imposed in them by the elites and the powerful, such as a policeman.
But what I have been saying is that neither purposes nor groups are unitary nor unchanging.
INdividuals within the groups can also have their own purposes, these also change.
Groups are unbounded and so purposes may join or divide from others.
What is real is present does not mean what is past or to be is unreal.
The myriad of different purposes and motivations within those groups, that one man wants to become a soldier to defend his country, while another wants the paycheck, does not diminish nor negate that they both server a "higher" purpose than their own individual motivations.
To say that "to police" does not have "A purpose", doesn't make sense. The purpose of police is to enforce laws and apprehend criminals. It is not limited to this; but people know what the purpose of these jobs are.
You are still misrepresenting me.
I think we are done here.