In tribal societies, and older cultures such as East Asia, the Elders are venerated and honored, not so much in Western Civilization where "liberal values" trump and triumph over wisdom.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 8:10 amNah.
Where is your evidence for the wonder of "previous societies" please?
And we actually do that more than ever we used to. In fact we do it so much it is a dreadful bore. How wonderful was Dame Olivier Newton John?
Temuchin was a great example to millions of Mongols; "“A man's greatest joy is crushing his enemies.”
Now we just have different standards.
There is no right and wrong here - just different.
I agree that different societies/cultures/peoples have different Purposes, so then what is Western Civilization's purpose? What is this culture's purpose?
Sculptor1 wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 8:10 amI'm not sure why you ask these silly question.How people think of, or conceive of 'Gods', demonstrates a great deal about their mindset and "philosophical" outlook.
Different people have different standards of Reality, a willingness to accept some prospects as realistic/probable or not, versus unrealistic/improbable. Is God more realistic than Aliens from another planet? Possibly, but most people won't care insofar as neither affect them directly.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑August 9th, 2022, 8:10 amThe only case for a thing being "unnatural" is if it is a cultural idea like god; a political party; something purely artificial in the sense of a human construction.
The same is basically true for "unreal", something imaginary.
Some people can tell, some cannot. The clue is usually about human conceit. It's not hard. All you have to do is challenge all the rubbish you have had thrown into you, and have a critical eye.
Is there something in particular you are having a problem with?
Take a look at all the different ideas about what "god" is supposed to be and that should inform you that such ideas are unreal.
Take a look at the ingredients on a packet of Twinkies and ask yourself if these could have come together through nature? A Twinkie is unnatural in constitution, though all the ingredients at some point will have come from nature.
Using a 'highest' standard of Reality is my point. If people can't discuss the basics, and agree on them, then there can't be any high standard of Reality they would then agree upon. What is "real to me" is not necessarily to you or others. Reality is approximated, subjectively. Yet there are objective aspects of reality, which people deem "Science/Scientific/Empirical/Logical/Rational/Etc."