But I just clarified that I now understand better why you did not answer the questions. This is sufficient for me now.LuckyR wrote: ↑March 14th, 2021, 1:10 pmWell, feel free to re-ask your question, as I am happy to answer any question that is comprehensible.evolution wrote: ↑March 14th, 2021, 8:40 amYou did not answer the actual question I asked you.LuckyR wrote: ↑March 14th, 2021, 3:01 amNo one knows what determined those subatomic particles, though it bears mentioning that they don't require any determining beyond random chance, BTW.
By the way, matter exists forever. Therefore, obviously so to do subatomic particles.
Please refrain from 'trying to' speak for 'me'.
I know the big bang could not be the beginning, and to even think or believe that it was, just because 'it was written', is extremely foolhardy, by the way.
Also, and again, you did not answer the actual first two questions I asked you.
But human decision making is not a complex system at all. In fact, once you know how the Mind and the brain work, then the human decision making process is really a very simple and easy system.LuckyR wrote: ↑March 14th, 2021, 3:01 am Let me back up the truck to describe what Free Will is to me. If a system is 100% Determined it's behavior could be 100% predictable if it's antecedent state was well known. Say, simple systems like the behavior of billiard balls on a table (or planets in orbit). But let's take a complex system like human decision making (through neurological processes).
Well that is another definition, for me, of the long list of definitions for the term 'free will'.LuckyR wrote: ↑March 14th, 2021, 3:01 am Their behavior is partially predictable, but not 100% predictable. What can't be predicted (with knowledge of the antecedent state) is what I call Free Will. What can be predicted is Determined, even Pre-determined. Of course as our abilities improve over time, the portion of what can be predicted goes up, if it ever reaches 100% there will be no Free Will ie human decision making will be shown to be completely Determined. It is my prediction, that day will never come.
But I could not tell your previous posting was sarcastic.
In a philosophy forum I read words, literally.
If one does not say what they mean, or does not mean what they say, in philosophical discussions, then why say 'it'?
Also, if one wants to follow the deterministic concept, then they would also have to understand, and/or explain, what determined the, so called, big bang, and then what determined everything else also prior to that bang.
By the way, if your previous posting was sarcastic, then this helps in explaining why you did not answer the actual first two questions I asked you.
No I am not confusing 'know' and 'theorize' nor 'suspect'. In fact I use the word 'know' very specifically. See, I do not do 'theorizing', 'guessing', nor 'suspecting'. I do either, 'I know ...', or, 'I think ...' or 'In my view ...'.
To me, 'assuming' or 'theorizing' is just a complete and utter waste of time, especially when thee actual Truth of 'things' is just right here before 'us', for all to see. And, to me, 'believing' is the worst as doing 'beliefs' actually stops and prevents one from seeing what thee actual Truth of 'things' is.
Yes I agree. But still your view of 'free will' is more complex then I think is necessary. But using your view will certainly come in handy for better explaining my view of 'free will'.