[quote="whitetrshsoldier"]Ape,
If I believed in the soul, I would love it as not going to hell. I would expect god to do the same, but he has expressed in the bible his desire to not do so.
ape: No he has not. You are reading him literally when he is writing metaphorically and can only be understood figuratively.
Here is is what he does in general and ALWAYS IN LOVE:
Romans 4:
17...
God, who ... calls those things which be not [so] [as though they were [so]].
Can you give me one 4 letter-word for what God is defining himself as there in Romans 4:17?
It begins with an 'l' and ends with an 'r.'
This is one of the kinds of people you most likely also do not love, nor love you as.
So, from word one, you will misread whatever he says.
See?
wts:
His intent on damning anybody who does not drop to their knees to praise him for his greatness is not good. It is megomaniacal and self-serving, and I will never accept it as selfless or loving.
ape: If he were so, you wd be right.
But he is NOT so ---tho' he wants you to love YOU as such so you wd love him when he LOOKS so or when you THINK he IS so!
He actually says that everybody is saved--already!
Do you know that?
Wd u like me to show you where it is?
wts:
Please do not try to defend any deity who would damn me to hell for not praising him for his forgiveness of a sin that HE BRED ME INTO.
ape: He cd defend himself better than I can--believe me!:)
BUT if I were Him or if He were me, especially YOU wd have free pass straight, --no go to jail, no pay any dollars,--to Heaven!
But I wd be faking you to make you feel so special: everybody has a FREE pass and are ALREADY saved and were NEVER at any time ever lost!
Hmmmm
And He is better than me!
So you got it made---already!:)
Do you like being tricked?
Well, you just got played the best one by the Master Player!
You just said the greatest words ever and yet don't understand the truth of what you just said means!
Here are some leading questions:
How cd God condemn you for doing what he does?
How cd God not NOT condemn you if he himself does what you do?
If God does all that you do and is cool with it, what is the only sin we cd 'commit'?
Is that ONLY sin an act or a THOUGHT?
If you choose THOUGHT, what is the only thought that can be a sin if God thinks all thoughts and so all thoughts are ok to be thought?
THINK about those last 3!
Now listen to this::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJwe-3AA ... re=related