Animal Ethics - Is it wrong to eat animals?
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Trust is another complicated issue. Politicians have always liked, for example, it's just that they are getting called on it a lot more now. People have always had ridiculous beliefs, it's just they are getting highlighted much more now.
For me I think if you are armed with basic critical thinking. Protect yourself against unconscious persuasion. Then there is a lot of great information out there, it's never been better.
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Greta I agree with you about pork. I don't touch the stuff. But I cannot resist bacon -- either straight with eggs or on pizza.Greta wrote: ↑November 26th, 2018, 7:12 pm I would think that intensive factory farming of chickens and pigs would measure strongly in terms of calories v land used.
However, pigs are so intelligent that, in terms of suffering and deprivation, what we are doing seems roughly equivalent to keeping small children in those conditions in cages. I don't eat pig at all, even free range, because my disgust with factory farming has spoiled it all for me. It also should be said that the hormone infused, unhealthy meats being sold from these producers will keep people alive but will be less healthy than meats from animals that are not chronically sick and depressed.
I find the whole situation very sad, as I find the entire schema of life needed to destroy other life to survive for that matter (if a little less so). If we are "born into sin" then this is the fault line.
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Sorry to be a killjoy. I used to love supreme pizzas and pork crackling. I have had to let them go but, on the plus side, since stopping I now don't find myself attracted to the meat and find the smell a little nauseating, thus it's no longer a sacrifice. It was a damn sight easier to quit than cigarettes :)
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Most beef however is a byproduct of the dairy industry. The newborn males are not good for much other than slaughter. It is the females that are most valuable for dairy.
And sheep can graze almost anywhere even hills or mountains. Their meat is also a biproduct of the wool industry.
So on the ethical grounds of not being wasteful, the justification for some consumption of meat is indeed justified.
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Our omnivorous ways played a major role in the evolution of our large, energy-hungry brains because energy from meat is more concentrated.
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I have read studies in Malthusianism that as we approach a 10 billion population on the Earth that the only meat that most people will be able to afford is farmed fish and chickens. The wool industry would provide some meat, as would the dairy industry, but it would become as expensive as caviar.Greta wrote: ↑November 29th, 2018, 9:10 pm In an ideal world the land that's used for grazing would be gradually enriched but the horse may have bolted there - a few thousand years ago.
Our omnivorous ways played a major role in the evolution of our large, energy-hungry brains because energy from meat is more concentrated.
I envision in those days having a rabbit farm in my back yard with 2 breeding pairs. While I would love my 4 breeders, I would not have a lot of regrets slaughtering the younger bunnies for meat.
Another possibility would be a tilapia pond in my swimming pool.
My ethics on the matter would be that I need protein to survive, and with the expense of buying meat, it would be more economical to breed my own source of meat.
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Now I can say, "No. I'm a flexitarian". People tend to like you best when they have a tidy label for you.
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