A Method to Study the Principles of Reality (A Map of Reality)
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A Method to Study the Principles of Reality (A Map of Reality)
Creating a crude starter-map is relatively simple.
To start, assign every word from a thesaurus unique coordinates (x,y,z).
Then program these words (nodes) to move in the direction of their synonyms.
Then let the simulation run until sense emerges from the chaos.
To develop a more rigorous map, use the definitions of words, abiding by English grammar syntax rules. Also, the coordinates are not limited to 3, it is highly probable that much more than 3 dimensions will be needed to differentiate all the meaning and essence. These maps may bring to light essential truths and may also lead to the creation of new words in order to better describe the principles of reality. I am merely introducing the topic, an accurate model of reality would require countless modifications and adjustments.
This seems to me to be an achievable task that might illuminate some truths and essence of reality. It also seems like it would be an invaluable tool for philosophers. If I had my way, creating this map would be my full-time job. I think the development of these models will advance the field of philosophy.
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English is a great language derived mostly from the French with bits and pieces of German and Keltic.
The French comes from the Latin.
The Latin comes mostly from the Greek but also with some ancient Egyptian and Etruscan mixed in.
We can say that English is the most evolved of all languages.
However there is nothing you can say in English that cannot be said in French, Latin, or Greek as well.
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Fundamental Philosophy is independent of any language.TryingMyBest wrote: ↑December 21st, 2018, 12:03 am I aim to be clear and concise in proposing one way to study the principles of reality (to map reality).
Creating a crude starter-map is relatively simple.
To start, assign every word from a thesaurus unique coordinates (x,y,z).
Then program these words (nodes) to move in the direction of their synonyms.
Then let the simulation run until sense emerges from the chaos.
To develop a more rigorous map, use the definitions of words, abiding by English grammar syntax rules. Also, the coordinates are not limited to 3, it is highly probable that much more than 3 dimensions will be needed to differentiate all the meaning and essence. These maps may bring to light essential truths and may also lead to the creation of new words in order to better describe the principles of reality. I am merely introducing the topic, an accurate model of reality would require countless modifications and adjustments.
This seems to me to be an achievable task that might illuminate some truths and essence of reality. It also seems like it would be an invaluable tool for philosophers. If I had my way, creating this map would be my full-time job. I think the development of these models will advance the field of philosophy.
It does not require English, Greek, or any other.
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In the best case scenario, yet unlikely, that will only map English grammar. Get us something from which will emerge sense as in Pragmatics.TryingMyBest wrote: ↑December 21st, 2018, 12:03 am I aim to be clear and concise in proposing one way to study the principles of reality (to map reality).
Creating a crude starter-map is relatively simple.
To start, assign every word from a thesaurus unique coordinates (x,y,z).
Then program these words (nodes) to move in the direction of their synonyms.
Then let the simulation run until sense emerges from the chaos.
To develop a more rigorous map, use the definitions of words, abiding by English grammar syntax rules. Also, the coordinates are not limited to 3, it is highly probable that much more than 3 dimensions will be needed to differentiate all the meaning and essence. These maps may bring to light essential truths and may also lead to the creation of new words in order to better describe the principles of reality. I am merely introducing the topic, an accurate model of reality would require countless modifications and adjustments.
This seems to me to be an achievable task that might illuminate some truths and essence of reality. It also seems like it would be an invaluable tool for philosophers. If I had my way, creating this map would be my full-time job. I think the development of these models will advance the field of philosophy.
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I am not sure I understand the benefit of having more than two dimensions, maybe you can provide an example. Word meaning seems to (me) be describable in two dimensions; the metaphoric as the vertical axis and the metonymic as the horizontal axis. What difference would the other axis make?TryingMyBest wrote: ↑December 21st, 2018, 12:03 am I aim to be clear and concise in proposing one way to study the principles of reality (to map reality).
Creating a crude starter-map is relatively simple.
To start, assign every word from a thesaurus unique coordinates (x,y,z).
Then program these words (nodes) to move in the direction of their synonyms.
Then let the simulation run until sense emerges from the chaos.
To develop a more rigorous map, use the definitions of words, abiding by English grammar syntax rules. Also, the coordinates are not limited to 3, it is highly probable that much more than 3 dimensions will be needed to differentiate all the meaning and essence. These maps may bring to light essential truths and may also lead to the creation of new words in order to better describe the principles of reality. I am merely introducing the topic, an accurate model of reality would require countless modifications and adjustments.
This seems to me to be an achievable task that might illuminate some truths and essence of reality. It also seems like it would be an invaluable tool for philosophers. If I had my way, creating this map would be my full-time job. I think the development of these models will advance the field of philosophy.
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Well, it does have the largest vocabulary. However, is a germanic (not romance) language, not that it matters.h_k_s wrote: ↑December 22nd, 2018, 12:03 pmEnglish is a great language derived mostly from the French with bits and pieces of German and Keltic.
The French comes from the Latin.
The Latin comes mostly from the Greek but also with some ancient Egyptian and Etruscan mixed in.
We can say that English is the most evolved of all languages.
However there is nothing you can say in English that cannot be said in French, Latin, or Greek as well.
As to the ability to "say" things, it's my understanding that every language has thoughts/ideas/concepts that cannot be completely translated into other languages.
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Calling English "Germanic" is a major misnomer since 70% of the words are French -- ergo Romance.LuckyR wrote: ↑December 23rd, 2018, 3:57 amWell, it does have the largest vocabulary. However, is a germanic (not romance) language, not that it matters.h_k_s wrote: ↑December 22nd, 2018, 12:03 pm
English is a great language derived mostly from the French with bits and pieces of German and Keltic.
The French comes from the Latin.
The Latin comes mostly from the Greek but also with some ancient Egyptian and Etruscan mixed in.
We can say that English is the most evolved of all languages.
However there is nothing you can say in English that cannot be said in French, Latin, or Greek as well.
As to the ability to "say" things, it's my understanding that every language has thoughts/ideas/concepts that cannot be completely translated into other languages.
Philosophy is supposed to enable you to figure such misnomers out on your own.
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Ha ha, you give me too much credit. The fact that linguists classify English as a Germanic language is not my opinion.h_k_s wrote: ↑December 23rd, 2018, 5:24 amCalling English "Germanic" is a major misnomer since 70% of the words are French -- ergo Romance.LuckyR wrote: ↑December 23rd, 2018, 3:57 am
Well, it does have the largest vocabulary. However, is a germanic (not romance) language, not that it matters.
As to the ability to "say" things, it's my understanding that every language has thoughts/ideas/concepts that cannot be completely translated into other languages.
Philosophy is supposed to enable you to figure such misnomers out on your own.
"The various subgroups of the Indo-European language family include ten major branches, listed below in alphabetical order:....
Germanic (from Proto-Germanic), earliest attestations in runic inscriptions from around the 2nd century AD, earliest coherent texts in Gothic, 4th century AD. Old English manuscript tradition from about the 8th century AD. Includes English, Frisian, German, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Afrikaans, Yiddish, Low German, Icelandic and Faroese....."
Whereas:
"The five most widely spoken Romance languages by number of native speakers are Spanish (470 million), Portuguese (250 million), French (150 million), Italian (90 million),[4] and Romanian (25 million).[5]".
Note the absence of English, since it is of Germanic origin.
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As a philosopher you should be able to disagree with any so called experts, especially when all the evidence contradicts their worthless claims.LuckyR wrote: ↑December 24th, 2018, 4:08 amHa ha, you give me too much credit. The fact that linguists classify English as a Germanic language is not my opinion.
"The various subgroups of the Indo-European language family include ten major branches, listed below in alphabetical order:....
Germanic (from Proto-Germanic), earliest attestations in runic inscriptions from around the 2nd century AD, earliest coherent texts in Gothic, 4th century AD. Old English manuscript tradition from about the 8th century AD. Includes English, Frisian, German, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Afrikaans, Yiddish, Low German, Icelandic and Faroese....."
Whereas:
"The five most widely spoken Romance languages by number of native speakers are Spanish (470 million), Portuguese (250 million), French (150 million), Italian (90 million),[4] and Romanian (25 million).[5]".
Note the absence of English, since it is of Germanic origin.
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Hhmmm... professional linguists who have devoted their life's work to the study of the history and origins of the world's languages or a random anonymous internet posting... hhmmmm... I'll go with the professional scholars, if you don't mind.h_k_s wrote: ↑December 24th, 2018, 11:12 amAs a philosopher you should be able to disagree with any so called experts, especially when all the evidence contradicts their worthless claims.LuckyR wrote: ↑December 24th, 2018, 4:08 am
Ha ha, you give me too much credit. The fact that linguists classify English as a Germanic language is not my opinion.
"The various subgroups of the Indo-European language family include ten major branches, listed below in alphabetical order:....
Germanic (from Proto-Germanic), earliest attestations in runic inscriptions from around the 2nd century AD, earliest coherent texts in Gothic, 4th century AD. Old English manuscript tradition from about the 8th century AD. Includes English, Frisian, German, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Afrikaans, Yiddish, Low German, Icelandic and Faroese....."
Whereas:
"The five most widely spoken Romance languages by number of native speakers are Spanish (470 million), Portuguese (250 million), French (150 million), Italian (90 million),[4] and Romanian (25 million).[5]".
Note the absence of English, since it is of Germanic origin.
"...all the evidence...", really? Overreach much?
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