The mechanism we use to think, the brain, is testable, but the creative internal being and the language we use to think is all immaterial.Jan Sand wrote: ↑February 3rd, 2019, 3:08 am It is reasonable to first prove immaterial things exist before it is granted that they can cease to exist. Brain functions can be discerned with current instrumentation of blood flow and synaptic connection and disconnection. There is nothing immaterial in thinking.
Can you think without using language? How do we explain your complex immaterial emotional thoughts which occur using language? Emotions seem to be an immaterial law or sorts, they do not serve the purposes of naturalistic explainations but are clearly very real. Intertwined in our being is a morality, which is immaterial, emotions, which is immaterial, all these things use our bodies to express themselves but appear to be in control of our bodies instead of subjects of and/or inventions of our bodies. This very conversation is nonsense if we are strictly naturalistic creatures, why would a human ever venture to think such things?
All the laws of nature exist, we do not invent them. Same with mathematical laws, you can assign a different symbol or value but the laws are always the same. We find an incredible amount of immaterial laws which we use to make matter do what we want it to, but we do not use matter to violate the immaterial laws, because they are unchangeable. By observation we find that the immaterial lords it over the material world in this way, one governs the other. Our being is immaterial and our material body listens to it until it leaves and goes where it goes.