Stop right here. Firstly I hope you don't mind me pointing out the flaws in your bad logic. Here goes. -- Logical Flaw #1. We don't start with a circle and then go "seeking" for a ring-like shape. The 'ring-like shape' precedes, and is the reason/cause for the "circle". In other words, we experience (see) a ring-like shape first, and then we call it a "circle". Not the other way around! -- the "circle" only exists because of the ring-like shape.Tamminen wrote:If I believe that my neighbor is planning to kill me, and if we seek justification for my belief…
And likewise, we don't start with a belief and then go "seeking" for a justification. The 'justification' precedes, and is the reason/cause for the "belief". In other words, we experience the justification (thought/feeling) first, and then we call it a "belief". Not the other way around! -- the "belief" only exists because of the justification.
But keep in mind, that without the pre-existing 'justification', there could/would be no propositional belief "My neighbor is planning to kill me". It is the justification that leads to the belief, ...not the other way around!Tamminen wrote:...we are not seeking justification for the proposition "I believe my neighbor is planning to kill me", because that proposition is what we started from, but for the proposition "My neighbor is planning to kill me".
Not so. Logical Flaw #2. Rationality has NOTHING to do with the EXISTENCE of justification. A 'good or bad' justification is STILL a justification. A 'red or green' (good/bad; ripe/not-ripe) apple is STILL an apple.Tamminen wrote:Now if my neighbor is really planning to kill me, my belief may be justified or not depending on my having rational grounds for my belief.
Again, "rationality" has no relevance to (the existence of) "justification". Justifications can be "rational" or "irrational"; perceived as good or perceived as bad.Tamminen wrote:If my neighbor is not planning to kill me, my belief may still be justified if I have rational grounds for it.
Yes. These are 3 different things.Tamminen wrote:So belief, its justification and its truth are three different things.
1. ALL Beliefs are considered True and Justified, otherwise it would NOT be called a "Belief".
2. ALL Circles are considered 'Ring-like' and 'Round', otherwise it would NOT be called a "Circle".
1. When a Belief is no longer Justified (or considered True), it is no longer a "Belief".
2. When a Circle is no longer Round (or considered Ring-like), it is no longer a "Circle".
Therefore JTB ("justified true belief") is as non-sensically redundant as "round ringlike circles". Contrary to our indoctrinated brain-washings, JTB is NOT "(true) knowledge", JTB is only redundantly stated (subjective) "belief"; and nothing more!
No offense, but your so-called "epistemology" is logically flawed, 'bad' epistemology.Tamminen wrote:This is called epistemology.