Prof Bulani wrote: ↑January 25th, 2020, 5:31 am
creation wrote: ↑January 24th, 2020, 8:47 am
Okay great. Now we have something to work with.
Would you like me to wait for you to now tell me what these words mean, or would you like me to tell you how they fit in with my definition of God first?
Because communicating in these forums is extremely slow. I will explain how those words fit in with my definition of God now, but if you prefer to tell me what those words mean, to you, first, then just ignore what I wrote below. But, if you do not want this, then just read what I wrote.
If, 'omnipotent' means something like;
having unlimited power, then obviously God, the infinite and eternal Universe, has unlimited power.
'Eternal creator of the Universe' means that God, the Universe, is in eternal creation. The Universe is creating Its Self always. Always has been and always will be, or eternally. Because of the way the Universe fundamentally exists, and works, It has always been in eternal Creation. God, the Universe has always being
in Creation.
'A spiritual being in form' is God, the Mind, which is an invisible thing that provides human beings with the ability to learn and understand absolutely any and every thing.
'Invisible and all-knowing' is God, the Mind, which is invisible, and from where ALL-Knowing comes from. The Mind Knows, whereas the brain only thinks.
'Final judge of morality and justice' is God, the Mind, through this One Mind morality and justice is already Known. Just not yet consciously known by most people. Who has the actual ability to finally judge what is morally right for ALL, and justice for ALL?
Nothing other than ALL, as One. Only
in agreement by ALL as One, for ALL, will that be the 'final judge of morality and justice'. Obviously there is no one person or thing other than ALL, which could decide and judge for ALL. The Mind is what transcends ALL, and what allows each of us to gain and have empathy with each and ALL others. Being able to put "ourselves into the shoes of others" is how we can already Know what is morally right, and justice for ALL.
Only when we are thinking and doing for ALL, as One, then we have a final Judge of morality and justice. That Judge is ALL of us united as One.
'Benevolent' happens from God, the Mind, which has empathy for ALL, equally as One. When we are doing for ALL, which is just ourselves anyway, when we are doing the same as we want for our individual self, equally, then we are doing for our True Self, which is just ALL-OF-US, united as One.
'Demanding of worship', is God, the Mind, which does not 'demand' worship in the sense of any one having to look up to and worshiping 'another'. But just us looking up to and worshiping our own True Self, which is just us, or ourselves, when we are united as One. When we are doing what is right in Life for every one, and thus creating the one truly peaceful world in harmony together with each other, which we ALL Truly want anyway, then we are not 'demanding' worship, we are just worshiping who we Truly ARE, anyway.
'Intolerant of disobedience' is God, the Mind, which, although allows human beings to 'freely' do whatever it is that they want to do, God, the Universe, sorts out what is 'disobedient' by just wiping out 'that' what is not living in harmony with Nature, or Life, Itself. If, and when, human beings have been to disobedient, then the earth cannot sustain them anymore, and the Universe just keeps doing what It does, which is just keeps evolving, and creating, for eternity. The Universe, God, has no tolerance, nor absolutely any care at all, for any species at all, especially one that destroys its own "mother" or its own necessary home, for their survival. The Universe, God, will just take away what It gave, because of their disobedience. The Mind, God, is 'intolerant of disobedience', which can be seen in the way human beings treat each other when they are 'intolerant of disobedience' they have and show towards each other.
'Grantor of petitions', i have not heard of before.
Are you absolutely sure of this?
To me, the Universe, and the Mind, are both obviously eternal, omnipotent is obviously universally powerful, the Mind is where ALL-knowledge comes from, the Mind, is God, in spirit form, invisible. The Universe creates It Self, always. The Universe was never created at one moment and that was it. The Universe is still in Creation, NOW. Sin, can just mean 'missing the mark', as well as many other things to many people. The Mind Knows what is right. The Mind judges immorality. Why do you think ALL people are punished for doing "wrong"?
How could that even be possible?
Human beings have a habit of seeing things that really are not even possible, let alone ever being true.
The soul, which is just the invisible thoughts and emotions, is the person, the you, the self, the entity 'human being'. Whereas, the Mind is thee Spirit, the Real and True Self, which is the entity of ALL, Being One.
As above.
We are going in circles here.
I am not.
So why are you going in circles.
Do you think you are seeing something that I am not?
From what I am seeing my definition of God is more closer to your common definitions of God than I had realized previously
Prof Bulani wrote: ↑January 25th, 2020, 5:31 am
The universe does not have "unlimited power". In scientific terms, the energy of the universe is finite.
That is because, to some, in the scientific community, the Universe is finite.
And, if you want to claim that the Universe does not have "unlimited power", because, in scientific terms, the energy of the Universe is finite, then, if in scientific terms it is finally discovered that actually the Universe is infinite, and the energy of the Universe is in fact infinite, then would that mean the Universe now does have 'unlimited power'?
If yes, then okay.
But if no, then why not now?
Prof Bulani wrote: ↑January 25th, 2020, 5:31 am
In religious terms, the universe doesn't have the "ability to do anything", such as violate the laws of physics and so on, as is ascribed to God.
But if all of the Universe was sucked into a black, which the Universe created, and where the laws of physics, on human beings terms, by the way, do not exist, then does that mean that the Universe does actually have the "ability to do anything"?
If yes, then okay.
But if no, then why not now?
Prof Bulani wrote: ↑January 25th, 2020, 5:31 am
The universe in a state of creation doesn't imply it created anything.
Obviously absolutely 'every' thing 'has to' be created. Things do not just come to exist without being created.
What creates absolutely every thing is ultimately God, the Universe, Itself. Obviously absolutely every thing came from two other things, which were not the whole Universe, Itself, but ultimately every thing is created from God, the Universe, Itself.
Absolutely every thing is created. For example, human bodies are created by two human bodies coming together, and forming one thing. Now, think about absolutely every thing else, and where it came from, what will be discovered is it came from at least two other things coming together.
Now, absolutely every created thing, evolves. Through things reacting with other things, things change/evolve, and are further created. Things reacting is creating. Every action causes a reaction, and it is this continual reaction process, which is just what creation is, and is exactly how the Universe works. The Universe is just One reacting-evolving process, also known as Creation, Itself. Through evolution the Universe creates every thing. Every thing is created because of just how the Universe actually works.
Prof Bulani wrote: ↑January 25th, 2020, 5:31 am
God is never described as a thing being created, evolving or changing.
What do you mean that God is NEVER described as a thing being created, evolving or changing, when I obviously and clearly just described 'this', this exact way. You would not have said what you just said if I had not described 'this' this way. Therefore, God IS described as a thing being created, evolving or changing.
This can also be explained very simply and very easily through, and with, logic and reason.
Prof Bulani wrote: ↑January 25th, 2020, 5:31 am
You defined Mind as the
ability to learn things. Are you now changing this definition? An ability is not an entity. It is, at best, an attribute of an entity. An ability cannot therefore be a thing with attributes itself. The Mind, as you defined it, cannot have things like knowledge, benevolence, morality or agency. Because it's an ability. Either stick to the definition you provided, or come up with another definition and stick to that.
In a sense I regret writing that the way I did, without clarifying that it is not the one and only definition. But considering there are probably 100 to 200 thousand more words that may be needed to explain just this one part so that it is fully understood to some people, do you really expect me to make just one definition and stick to that definition solely and completely?
How many words in just any, of the many, dictionaries, all with different definitions for the same word by the way, just have one and only definition to which they stick to?
That definition of 'ability to learn' in relation to Mind, is in reference to how the Mind is completely OPEN to ALL things.
Now, just as there is a 'being', in a 'human being', which is more or less the entity, so to is the Mind, the Being of the Universe, in the sense of this is the Entity of the living Being, God, the Universe. But as I was saying, to explain all-of-this, so that it is all fully understood, all depends on the one reading or listening. Some will understand this with far less words than others will. And, at this stage of the evolutionary process of Life, this is only at the very first stages of just being heard, let alone being listened to and understood, let alone being fully understood, accepted, and agreed with.
The Mind, which is Truly OPEN, is the Thing that allows ALL things to be learned, or provides all human beings with the 'ability to learn' ALL things.
The Mind can also be seen as and known as the living Spirit, within ALL.
There is also the Mind's Eye, which can see, or understand, ALL things.
The Truly OPEN Mind can be seen as and known as where ALL knowledge comes from.
But for all-of-this to be truly understood and accepted there might be many more words needed to be used to explain this fully. But this explanation can be done.