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“Aging is an accumulation of chemical damage to the molecules inside our cells, which damages the cells themselves, and therefore the tissue, and then eventually us as an organism.” cnn

One way to think of our ageing process in terms of our breathing might not be a decreasing amount of oxygen as we age but rather a decreasing ability to exhale carbon dioxide as if carbon becomes more scattered in our bodies to prevent us being immortal.

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We can forgive not only people but also material systems after an accident. It’s as if not only do we forgive aggressive animals for their lack of self-awareness but so too might animals forgive other animals only in a very materialistic way. Hence when we think of the frame problem of artificial intelligence it’s possible to think of a robot ignoring all secondary variables much like forgiveness in order to focus on the central task. Hence forgiveness mimics the idea of a robot arbitrarily ending part or all of the analysis as if the temporal duration spent on a task is random much like a dream. So a robot could retry the task multiple times with unique and random amount of times allotted to each one so that the thought processes would be different.

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Vice versa forgiveness can also stem from the liar paradox as if each small fib can rarely be unquantifiable in damage in aggravating all prior lies were it not for our ability to discern good intentions. So sometimes we can’t complain about a small bit of rudeness as if it were self-evidently rude because we’d otherwise have to complain about all other slightly rude incidents from other strangers until there’s an infinite regress. When it comes to the frame problem sensory deprivation might mimic a bit of tough love as if we can’t focus on everything at once. So the way our eye saccades take longer to scan a magnified object in the foreground mimics an increase in how much time we can spend thinking about that object. Likewise when we move a tea-cup we could blink after we take hold of it or close our eyes like we were lifting a heavy weight until we put the cup down so that we only focus on our muscles and not the background. That the frame problem partially stems from how much faster light travels compared to sound as if we can’t verbalise everything in a visual environment. For example there’s no limit to how much more concise a sound wave could become much like morse code to capture more encrypted details in the visual environment.

“Now, suppose the robot has to take a tea-cup from the cupboard. The present location of the cup is represented as a sentence in its database of facts alongside those representing innumerable other features of the ongoing situation, such as the ambient temperature, the configuration of its arms, the current date, the colour of the tea-pot, and so on. Having grasped the cup and withdrawn it from the cupboard, the robot needs to update this database. The location of the cup has clearly changed, so that's one fact that demands revision. But which other sentences require modification? The ambient temperature is unaffected. The location of the tea-pot is unaffected. But if it so happens that a spoon was resting in the cup, then the spoon's new location, inherited from its container, must also be updated.” Stanford

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The idea that a dream is tachyonic could be parodied in how the thread could be culturally tachyonic as if its partial irrelevance to the public mimicked the dark web! So the way in which a reader rules out light-speed travel in their sleep might actually exceed their ancestors who never knew about the idea but never actually formally ruled it out! That way the counterfactual case of faster-than-light dreaming would appear in society in the negative form as if people would ironically never think about the imaginary idea in a way that someone in history might have randomly and fleetingly did think about though more incoherently. That way lucid dreaming would develop like a game of chicken where increasing amounts of sexual objectification force the issue in how tachyonic someone might end up being!

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This morning I was awoken by a bit of drilling outside but when I went back to bed I was applying for a job in a shipyard junk site! REM sleep might resemble your eyes reading two different books at once as if each sentence were read intermittently between each book and vaguely connected as a simple encryption. The cold can function like an entropy-defying message in how not only can metals or bones and muscles contract when cooled but so too does water in our blood have the opposite effect in expanding to take up more space. So much like a brain freeze when we drink a cold milkshake so too can our thoughts slow down when we sleep to interrupt a thoughtline as a version of free won't as if our blood vessels were expanding like ice! So the chaotic neuron firings during REM sleep mimics a high entropy state before returning to a low entropy, low disorder state during non-REM sleep.

"Water is a polar molecule, meaning it has a positive end and a negative end. This polarity allows water molecules to form hydrogen bonds with each other. A hydrogen bond is a weak bond between two molecules resulting from an electrostatic attraction between a proton in one molecule and an electronegative atom in the other. In the case of water, the hydrogen atoms (positive end) of one water molecule are attracted to the oxygen atoms (negative end) of another water molecule.
As water cools and begins to freeze, these hydrogen bonds start to stabilise and hold the water molecules in a fixed position. The arrangement that the molecules take on is a hexagonal structure, which is less dense than the random arrangement in liquid water. This hexagonal structure has a lot of open space, causing the water to expand and increase in volume." tutorchase

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Perhaps an alternative explanation to the derealised panic attack I had in late 2013 after a false awakening might have been the opposite as if I’d suddenly forgotten my worries about quantum mechanics in my prior years such that I was imprisoned in classical mechanics in my bedroom that morning! Likewise a way to defend lucid dreaming might be to shift the burden of disproof to non-lucid dreamers who tried hard to lucid dream because if you don’t want to lucid dream then you simply might not lucid dream! The way in which dreaming might be easy for our dream character might be that we could take a set of events in a dream as congenital rather than acquired much like temporary monocular blindness in a dream. Perhaps winking might be one way to tame daytime hallucinations for schizophrenics. So if we come across a different village in a dream we could assume we were raised there since birth without questioning it until the dream ends. That way mind cloning would actually be the easiest state of affairs to simply not challenge the dream much like market capitalism appearing redundantly complicated but simple enough relative to lassaiz faire capitalism when contrasted to a planned economy!

John Wick: Chapter 4 | John Vs Caine

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Perhaps a limitation of artificial intelligence is the notion of “no pain, no gain” as if we underestimate how productive all of our unconscious muscles would be in guiding a robot avatar rather than in just using are fingers on a control panel. So much like practicing a full arm golf swing on a short nintendo wii stick we could go even further by running on a treadmill with leg sensors to virtually guide a robot’s legs or more directly on robotic stilts. Likewise we could have a real dog running on a treadmill to guide a robot dog! Or we could lift an actual weight to help simulate a robotic arm extension. So corporal punishment can force you to empathise more with a robot as if your life was also on the line if you wasted a precious robot!

Avatar - Jake Meets Colonel Quaritch


It’s often tempting to tolerate classical music because we know it can be idealistic even if it doesn’t sound too good but we don’t often have the same tolerance for older pop songs from prior decades. Maybe what gives is an inability to interpret a musical instrument as perfect and not just great when it comes to the mind-body problem such that there’s no actual limit to how good someone could play the instrument. Yet the catch is that as perfection is unattainable for most then the instrument serves like a sting operation to tempt you into overconfidence. So I never fully cared about the lyrics in the 70s song below but I couldn’t believe how hedonistic the instrumental beat appeared!

Boney M - Rasputin on a 100 year old organ

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Part of the problem with determinism might be a diffusion of responsibility as if the moment you side with determinism you might underestimate how many other people are determinists. This might lead to a spiral effect where if everyone unanimously sided with determinism then they might risk developing a super-deterministic attitude in a way that resembles a game of chicken. Hence anyone not braced for particle physics might eventually tolerate free will compatibilism a bit more as if materialism can be a victim of its own success! So by extension the apparent war between science and religion might not only be placated but could actually backfire if religion ended up functioning as a false flag attack against science in such a way that no one can actually defend against an incremental indoctrination of Newtonian mechanics. It’s as if racism and objectification could be defeated ad absurdism by taking it too literally in such a way that weightlifters obey an equal and opposite reaction while runners are assessed by remaining in constant velocity until an external force acts upon them! That way future generations might have to study academia just to defend against academia!

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One way to think about photographic memory in our unconscious mind is as an all-or-nothing perception. That way when we listen to a great song we forget that it could’ve taken the singer 3-months developing the lyrics being condensed into 3-minutes such that we don’t actually have to second guess the time-accelerated content. Likewise even though a better painter could paint something in a few minutes we forget that a year long painting might still be more humble in allowing you to see how the painting had originally ranked themselves way better than other painters to indulge so long but in a self-deprecating way. It’s as if an opera singer can not only parody the classical instruments but also vice versa where an opera singer can parody those who don’t care about classical music instruments as if they too were somehow secret opera singers feeling better than the classical instruments! So if our unconscious mind actually immediately learned off an art piece in real time then our conscious mind might not believe we learned it off fully owing to a lack of gratefulness such that we can’t actually remember any of it as if we were in shock and disbelief until we remember all of it so as not to risk permanently downplaying our own skills. This might be one reason we forget the foreign languages we learned at school as if anytime we try to remember it without speaking fluently might be an injustice to our prior dedication such that we can’t actually remember any of it until we try way harder! So a dream might also function in an inverse fashion to parody the idea we didn’t actually already fully remember prior songs or life events by way of a clumsy dream character rather than the dream supplying us with photographic memory directly.

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One dilemma with amorality is that even if we don’t consciously view an event as evil we might still subconsciously perceive it as evil which is why we can’t all run marathons or become bodybuilders. So in last night’s dream I was in a mountain village and seeking shelter under a balcony as surrounding buildings collapsed in a lightning storm. So the way I didn’t perceive the lightning as evil as my subconscious mind might have viewed lightning before lightning storms many months ago means that I wasn’t shocked into becoming lucid. I notice that the way I’ve more dream characters and relatives in my dreams in the last few months meant that I didn’t have as many lucid dreams in an inversely proportional way as if non-lucid dreams of a collective unconscious were equally absurd with lucid dreams with yourself as the only dream characters. One way to materialistically stress test solipsistic anti-realism during waking life might be as if objects literally shattered as you moved away from them under contracting visual depth perspective much like an earthquake. So the way an object gets visually smaller as it moves further away mimics an increase in density in a way that could be offset if the electronic mass decreased. Yet we can’t directly observe atomic mass where an alternative might be to view an object thrown in the air as foreshortened under depth perspective such that the bottom part closest to your eyes appears bigger such that more apparent weight is in the bottom part leading to a faster speed at the bottom and a slower speed at the top in a wag that could mimic the downward trajectory of gravity! The way there can be circularities in the laws of physics doesn’t mean we created gravity but the mere prospect that someone could glorify their own godhood even if they don’t is enough to separate us as artificially intelligent beings as distinct from non-conscious computers!

The Passion Of The Christ (2004) - The Earthquake

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Lehar once stated that our skull is beyond the night stars but few would be as bold to embody the Sun God without actually having to embody other galaxies! So perhaps the only way to reconcile intromission and extromission light theories is to take the nuclear option. It’s as if no one knows just how much more evil someone could be in the modern era to embrace nuclear war without actually committing crimes when those who committed evil in ancient history never had the hindsight of nuclear deterrence! So to embody the entire light ray as a panpsychist version of intromission theory you’d have to embody the light ray all the way from the Sun’s inner core. So when you look at the entire Sun it’s be as if you’re only seeing a two-inch wide dot of the Sun’s nuclear core as if the outer “photosphere” were merely a perpetual supernova slightly detached from the core like a halo afterimage or like the residual mushroom cloud of a nuclear bomb. After all a blind person has no direct way to prove the Sun fully exists without being megalomaniacal!

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Sun diagram

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Sunny day in Spanish Point

The Lord Of The Rings | The Return Of The King: Frodo destroys the ring

One way to view visual perspective like length contraction as an object recedes into the distance might be to interpret friction on a snooker ball on the ground a bit like topspin on an airborne tennis ball. That way the way the ground is evenly reduced in size until the horizon might mimic sidespin where a soccer ball rolling on the ground moving straight ahead from your eye’s perspective is actually travelling in tiny zig-zags from a microscopic perspective. So the way the ball has travelled a much further distance than first thought gives more time for friction to act on the ball in mimicking the effect of downward pull of gravity.