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By Cathal
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The collective unconscious. All are welcome!
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Bird railing Lahinch

I might have rambled on too long but I couldn’t trust someone from a bigger country writing the thread as they’d take it too seriously!
By Cathal
#472848
Newton discovered not only gravity but also calculus as if the two are somehow intrinsically connected. If space is relative then not only do we not objectively know the direction but also the speed much like centripetal acceleration changing tangential direction every moment as if every object moving linearly is actually slightly curved relative to Earth’s rotation! Hence one way to reconcile gravity’s apparent non-existence with pool table ball collisions might be that friction is often abbreviated in equations. So friction can be recursive as if the more a ball slows down the more ground friction is applied exponentially in a way that relates to calculus. In other words a resisting force is proportional to speed rather than being constant. This would also apply to air resistance as if the same amount of breeze would exhaust a thrown ball back to the ground.
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Perhaps water polo rather than pool boards might be more relevant in understanding reduced friction!
By Cathal
#472849
As a negative force sometimes it might be more accurate to say friction is inversely proportional to speed in a relative way as if the ridges on a car wheel tyre would skid more at high speed such that at a low speed maximal amounts of friction would be applied even if there’s less kinetic energy at lower speeds anyway. Friction doesn’t appear to fundamental a force until quantum mechanics begins to appear more complicated than carpet selection in various thickness for friction rates! So if the downward force of gravity were merged with the sideways force of friction then it’d be a diagonal vector against a ball in mimicking a variable rate of friction.
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Perhaps we could add a few quantum designs at the carpet shop!
By Cathal
#472850
A more sophisticated version of friction might be like playing boules in a meadow as if the flexibility of the tall grass is a hidden variable. That way the tall grass would put up more resistance towards the end.
By Cathal
#472854
(So in the prior post as the ball slows down as it comes closer to its final target the tall grass would become more stiff during the superficial collisions in producing even more friction. That way calculus would resemble the rate of friction produced from only one blade of grass or from one perpendicular row of grass taken from any point of the ball’s trajectory.)

Gravity could be thought of more transcendently where if you took it for granted that rain falls downwards as a constant then any object thrown up in the air becomes less buoyant towards the top before getting denser and more drenched as it falls back to the ground sinking even faster towards the bottom as if all other variables in gravity would fall into place as a side-effect of rain in this example.
By Cathal
#472995
An advantage of a Euler theory of gravity might be how open-ended the concept is. The theory could be tantalising in how easy it is to visualise only that it can also be ambiguous in being chaotic. So when we think of the “shut-up and calculate” doctrine in quantum mechanics it’s possible the way to reconcile quantum mechanics with classical mechanics is for classical mechanics to make no actual sense as if humans were that irrelevant to God. As such perhaps an ironic flaw in Einstein’s or Newton’s gravity might be that it made a tiny bit of intuitive sense if it was meant to make no sense other than mathematical!
By Cathal
#473001
So the idea of mysticism to stop an infinite regress of explanation isn’t just to serve as limited explanation but also to reject an explanation not only in the future but also in history. So it’d be like you’d have to study Newtonian mechanics to reject the history of Newtonian mechanics and not just the future of Newtonian mechanics were each classical billiard ball purely random like an electron! I witness so many exceptional artists on YouTube that it can be tempting to say that they aren’t just great but even creepily abnormal! This might mimic not just internal competition but also external competition between different genres. So the way modern abstract art clashes with traditional art might mimic destructive interference in a way that leads to reduced self-awareness in how skilled someone might be much like moral relativism in a way that deterministically increases efficiency. For example it’s easy to ignore long distance running at the Olympics as boring as if it’s zero sum where the moment you ignore one runner you must reject all if they were all as extreme as the first Marathon runner in ancient history who died immediately afterwards. A different tennis grip like Nadal’s western forehand and Federer’s eastern forehand might mimic a parody where the moment an enemy grip is tolerated the damage might already be done in such a way that many tennis players might be uncanny in their skill level. That way destructive interference can be immediate rather than gradual. When you watch low definition and high definition videos you can often slowly desensitise to each perspective but sometimes it’s only when you return to a different visual that you notice abnormal protrusions and accelerated temporal motions much like karma.
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Storm Clouds Oil Painting - Man's Best Friend, Ducks, and Calm Water
By Cathal
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Reverse directions on a lightning bolt zig-zag pattern.

When we think of alternating electric current it travels not only up-and-down like a transverse wave but also forwards and backwards like a longitudinal wave or a standing wave. Hence when it comes to the double slit experiment it might be possible to think of the same photon travelling backwards and forwards through either slit twice or both slits once. In other words the photon might pass through one slit but reverse direction before the screen to rewind back out of the slit before re-entering the slit only in a different diagonal direction to help produce a wave-like interference pattern on the screen.
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Sunlight mimics an incandescent lightbulb where light travels in all directions instead of a mono-directional laser.
By Cathal
#473084
“Or why is it that when you see flight paths on a map they always take a curved route between 2 cities? It's because planes travel along the shortest route in a 3-dimensional space. This route is called a geodesic or great circle route.”

As a metaphor of visual perspective we could interpret the expanding sphere of decreasing light intensity from an incandescent white light source as instead representing flow from the opposite direction of a contracting geodesic monochromatic laser beam. That way when you glance at a star we could interpret the light from the top and bottom of a star to have travelled in tapering bi-concave geodesics to produce a tiny visual star size. In other words to take extromission theory very literally you’d have to send eye beams all the way to the Sun rather than just to the sky! So the way time slows down at light speed might mimic a longer curved geodesic path rather than a faster linear one. It’d be as if decreasing light intensity could be instead interpreted as a row of invisible spacetime bubbles being pierced geodesically rather than just one diluting bubble. So as an object appears to expand as it comes closer to your eye it could mimic a widening bi-convex photon geodesics. If quantum gravity were relevant to consciousness then who knows if your curved geodesic optic nerves could be re-interpreted as linear by your subconscious.
By Cathal
#473166
The double slit experiment evokes the mystery of the trinity of Jesus a bit like my triple shadow from multiple street lights below:
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So an ironic inversion would be to think of quantum mechanics as the big world of metres and classical mechanics as the small world of centimeters as if a light second of 299,792,458m makes a metre long double slit experiment to negligible a distance. That way to “shut up and calculate” the interference pattern from the double slit experiment is exactly that; a shadow imprint from a photon. So all the light in the room afterwards used to shine on the shadow of the past photon inherently removes the shadow if we compared like with like!
By Cathal
#473170
By the time you consciously spot the shadow imprint of the photons on the interference pattern the photons themselves could be many light seconds away. So we could redo the double slit experiment not in a vacuum or with air but also in a crystal or water medium between the two slits to slow the light down. That way the refraction of light is immediate and linear as it exits the torch and enters the crystal or water medium before the double slit rather than curving gradually after the double slit. So wave particle duality might appear before the double slit and not just afterwards on the interference pattern screen.
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An object refracted through glass appears to be cut in half rather than bent.
By Cathal
#473171
If we replaced not only the interference pattern screen with a mirror but also replaced the card between the double slit with mirrors then the way in which a photon would keep bouncing between both mirrors before observation means that the initial reflection point would be concealed like an infinity mirror.
By Cathal
#473172
The idea that air molecules or other subatomic particles could be at play to deflect light in non-vacuum versions of the double slit experiment could be reinforced in a particle accelerator as if a tiny shift in direction can accumulate after a few light seconds of millions of metres were we to catch up with the photon after many loops of the particle accelerator. So much like a laser connecting two bullet holes in opposing walls from the same bullet so too could there be a sizeable deviation from the perpendicular from the observers point of view to help form a multi-bar photon interference pattern in the double slit experiment. This interference pattern might mimic the light emission spectrum of an electron jumping orbitals as if the way in which electrons in a camera wire convey the scene of the photon interference pattern from the screen to the observer in the double slit experiment isn’t as pure as photons travelling in an optical fibre cable as if you’re not comparing like with like.
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Bullet trajectories at crime scenes
By Cathal
#473561
A Euler theory of gravity could also function like a sting operation as if no one actually cared enough about a Euler force in and of itself. So if we ignored the apparent outward motion of the centrifugal force by doing the swing carousel experiment in the vacuum of outer space then we’d realise that without gravity the force on the chairs is inwards only at a maximum rate such that the connecting rope cannot be bent and hence has to straight and parallel. If there were tonne weights placed on the chairs then the initial pull from the ropes would actually be inward and downward until the spinning velocity increased proportionately with kinetic energy to push the chairs back outwards. If there was no weight placed on the chairs and the swing carousel only went intermittently then the chairs would not actually really go outward but would rather go upwards beyond the horizontal parallel position due to Newton’s opposite and equal reaction before falling down until the next jolt from the swing carousel. Hence if centripetal velocity was the only relevant circular force then gravity would be more easily accounted for as an inward pull.
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In outer space the tension from the ropes stretched out would appear inwards like the centripetal force to the person sitting inside and then to the outside observers on the lunar bench the tension from the swing carousel far above would appear outwards like the centrifugal force.
By Cathal
#473564
The idea of a Euler theory of gravity as if it were a combination of all Euler forces could be inverted if we specialised in one Euler force in particular. So an epic version of the Coriolis force would mimic Schrödinger’s cat as if a long range bullet would hit the target dead from the sniper’s perspective but still missed the target from the victim’s perspective remaining alive in two parallel universes until the sniper opts to take a second choice for more reassurance in combined probability! Alternatively the Coriolis force could be viewed symbolically as if the rotation of the Earth applies an equal sideways velocity to both the sniper and the forward-pointing long range target on the same landmass such that the laser target pointer remains on the target throughout the bullet’s trajectory. That way as the sniper is also moving sideways the Coriolis force would otherwise engage in destructive interference to have no effect other than the indirect side effect of a very gentle breeze following Earth’s rotation that’s too subtle to be directly observed in how it deflects the bullet’s path. So even if there’s no gale force wind where the sniper is perched there might still be a gale force wind in the exposed area where the target is located!

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