Is Western religion destroying itself?
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Is Western religion destroying itself?
made a pragmaitc Age of science that denied religion and philosophy. So religion and philosophy became "scientific" and adjusted to hedonisitic values withthe loss of all rational and spiritual values, by reversal or perversion. A common religion rises and fall with its civilization. So has it happened in the West?
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The poor Phoenix
You wrote:
Unfortunately if a phoenix flies up from the flames he is likely to be another central power complex
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Or ….
Hopefully after a few thousand years or so, the Phoenix would have gained some perspective. After all, how many years can this beautiful bird live without coming to awareness. The fact that it “throws itself into the flames” suggests some awareness of “death” and “rebirth” in its mind. To live out another existence starting as a baby phoenix again precludes some kind of willingness to learn, to be more aware.
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I wonder what nameless would say about there being an equal and opposite perspective to aggressive warfare.
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You said:
I wonder what nameless would say about there being an equal and opposite perspective to aggressive warfare"
I know you probably weren't actually looking for an answer and ----
I might be able to give my own version of what nameless might say in response to this, but as I only think with my brain, and not nameless's, I wouldn't try.
At the same time, my respect for him (or her) doesn't allow for my responding "for nameless"
Peace,
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Re: Is Western religion destroying itself?
You can't open a post with that sort of nonsense and expect the rest not to be taken with a pinch of salt.Edward J. Bartek wrote:Coming out of a Dark Age of no values, the Christian religion (1000 AD), with alomost pure spirituality, began the Medieval Age of theology. It denied rationality and observable fact,with 1/3 of population in monasteries and convents.
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sadly this kind of imperialistic religion/belief will not go away, but simply change names.
does a phoenix remember or gain something when it dies? don't answer that, its pointless, well not practical.
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and I am absolutely irked beyond belief when I'm in philisophical debate, and someone cites the Bible as a logical source. Honestly do they even know where it originated? No offense to any christians who might be reading this, but I just totally disagree with the idea that "Life is SO simple, you can understand EVERYTHING by reading a really old book"
and most of these christian "philosophers" seem to be so big headed and sure of themselves, they are impossible to be reasoned with. They can't accept that life is far more complex than just getting answers from a Magical Book. It should be noted that most people who think they understand, probably don't.
The way I see it, just as the man who says he is wise is revealing exactly the opposite. I think it's sortof the same thing when someone claims to "understand god perfectly' and start speaking for god. THAT is audacious.
No book nor prophet holds God’s words, for God does not speak our language. We must learn to speak his.
I believe that god is reasonable, and therefore I have faith in reason, and I guess that's all I really need. I don't see why god would be the anthropomorphic entity people always try to make him out to be, all vengeful and jealous and what-not.
I think there is a certain irony to belief in god though. I think little children believe in god because they are naive (and some adults never grow out of this naive belief system), some people lose faith in their religion, and stop believing in god. But some people later on re-discover god, free'd from religion and the nonsensical anthropomorphic qualities, and I believe this to be the truest god. (or atleast close).
Bah, this might of been more than a rant. I apologize, this is one of those subjects that gets me fired up and angry. hah.
now that I re-read it all, I think this might not have anything to do with the topic (which actually didn't make much sense to me anyway), oh well. :/
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It takes about two generations.
In America, first generation immigrants usually bring their religion with them and raise their children in a religion (the new wave are muslims). Those children grow up and experience their own desires put to the test. And guess what? They will indulge, but probably with some guilt. They will realize that the money in America are in the hands of the non-believers and progressive-believers.
By the second generation, the kids realize that you either stay poor by believing in a religion fundamentally, or you get wealthy by leaving it behind because no body hires religious fanatics or fundamentalists in America.
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